Web 2.0 - AJAX - benevolent illustrious boss - BIB - day care - crowdsourcing - James Bond - cookies - che - emoticons - potatoe - quayle - hail mary

[9:53:16 AM] pD says: are we Web 2.0/AJAX complaint?

[9:53:34 AM] pD says: i included several embedded youtube clips on the blog

[9:53:55 AM] pD says: and, you can play them simultaneously - i think that qualifies us since they are multiple threads going at the same time

[9:54:18 AM] pD is feeling a bit down since he thought Web 2.0 was something more fancy

[9:57:01 AM] AE says: please define web 2.0...

[9:57:25 AM] AE says: Actually, there was a great spiel about security, identity and web 2.0... let me see if I can find a link...

[9:57:33 AM] pD says: hell if i know!

[9:57:44 AM] pD says: but, seriously, that is a subject of much debate

[9:57:56 AM] pD says: i think the technical definition of AJAX is more precise

[9:58:20 AM] pD says: Asynchronous JavaScript and XML

[9:58:28 AM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)

[9:58:57 AM] pD says: as for Web 2.0, i think the original idea is that using techniques such as AJAX, it allows the web to be more interactive in both directions.

[9:59:08 AM] pD says: in the bad old days, web content is more one direction

[9:59:33 AM] pD says: now, slackers like me can post blog and embed video clips to create our own content

[9:59:37 AM] AE says: here, this is brilliant: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RrpajcAgR1E

[10:00:17 AM] pD says: and, with that, now web 2.0 seems to have developed into the concept of end-user based web/content activities - youtube, blog, etc.

[10:00:45 AM] pD says: well, that is my personally definition

[10:01:26 AM] pD says: what is the clip about, AE?

[10:01:31 AM] pD says: it is 15 minutes long...

[10:15:24 AM] AE says: yeah. that's right.

[10:15:35 AM] AE says: it's about 15 minutes long.

[11:12:40 AM] pD says: Little boss seems to be doing well in day care

[11:12:59 AM] pD says: the first day was a bit traumatic - mostly for BIB

[11:13:41 AM] pD says: the little boss also came back a bit cranky - i think he was just over stimulated since he never hangs out with many others

[11:14:01 AM] pD says: but, second day, yesterday, was okay. he was pretty normal when i picked him up

[11:16:00 AM] pD says: so, my conclusion is that he either hates me now, but did not want to say it or he can deal with shifting vicissitude well

[11:16:26 AM] pD is pondering the imponderable

[11:42:12 AM] pD says: btw, nsy, how did you get volunteered to do a re-fresher course?

[11:50:39 AM] pD says: little lindsey is very cute, isn't she

[12:13:41 PM] pD says: say, isn't this sort of what we do? Assignment Zero: Can Crowds Create Fiction, Architecture and Photography?

[12:13:47 PM] pD says: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2007/07/assignment_zero_all

[12:14:53 PM] nsy says: S knows i'll do it because i like educated customers - better for us in the long run ;)

[12:16:10 PM] pD says: good point

[12:16:23 PM] pD says: 8-|

[12:17:55 PM] nsy says: wow, crowdsourcing - cool jargon, too

[12:20:43 PM] pD never realizes he is in front of the wave...

[12:23:40 PM] nsy says: pD the surfer - hang ten, bra

[12:31:23 PM] pD says: never been "cool", not use to this...

[12:31:52 PM] pD says: on James Bond: Birdsong author Sebastian Faulks writes a new official James Bond book, Devil May Care, set during the Cold War.

[12:31:59 PM] pD says: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6289186.stm

[1:04:36 PM] pD says: this kind of news makes me feel warm and fuzzy. common sense triumphant

[1:04:45 PM] pD says: 1937 – A Shanghai newspaper believed it could boost circulation by including special editions to entice the reading public. They produced reams of copy and sold pages and pages of advertising eventually producing the largest ever Sunday newspaper edition to hit the streets of Shanghai . Sales of the paper doubled and the owners were delighted. But not much use for the advertisers – canny Chinese had bought up multiple copies of the paper in the knowledge that due to its gargantuan size the paper’s worth as scrap exceeded the cover price – they made about US$25 per thousand copies after forming syndicates to buy up every copy available making themselves about US$300 – not a bad Sunday’s work.

2007 – 70 years later and the Chinese post office announces proudly that it had delivered a record weight for a newspaper, a special pre May Day edition of the Beijing Evening News, circulation 650,000, containing 208 pages (normally just 48) – the most in the paper’s history, and resulting in a total delivery weight of 400 tons. However, the cover price of RMB0.50 (US$0.06) was less than the scrap value of the paper, so many dealers held the paper back and sold them for scrap at a better profit margin – something the advertisers were understandably unhappy about.

[1:38:09 PM] nsy says: ha - now thats ironic, alanis

[1:41:01 PM] pD says: gotta love those state controlled enterprises

[1:43:59 PM] nsy says: i like the way this guy thinks...http://homepage.mac.com/o051971/PhotoAlbum2.html

[1:46:08 PM] nsy says: someone found Jesus in their chocolate milk: http://www.wokq.com/images2/wwjd1.jpg

[1:46:33 PM] pD says: love the "Millennium Falcon Cookie!" http://homepage.mac.com/o051971/.Pictures/falcon%20cookie.jpg

[1:47:14 PM] pD says: hahah "Naughty Nurse and Dirty Doctor Cookies" http://homepage.mac.com/o051971/.Pictures/IMG_10.JPG

[1:47:42 PM] pD says: i would have thought that chocolate milk image look more like Che

[1:48:02 PM] pD says: http://arabist.net/wp-content/Che.jpg

[1:50:30 PM] nsy says: yes. in the eye of the beholder, i guess. this was the site where i found that - some other interesting stuff too... http://growabrain.typepad.com/growabrain/food_chocolate/index.html

[1:53:59 PM] pD says: cool site!

[1:54:14 PM] pD says: check out this story, from the blog, Woman buys 10,000 chocolate bars: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/3685925.stm

[1:54:25 PM] pD has just found new faith in huanity

[1:54:34 PM] pD says: humanity anyway

[2:03:14 PM] pD says: nsy, are you tempting me to insert my name in the field?

[2:03:19 PM] pD says: i am not shy that way, you know

[2:03:30 PM] pD says: ]:)

[3:52:24 PM] nsy says: haha, i can't believe i didn't do that myself!

[3:53:17 PM] pD says: are you too doing an ]:)?

[3:53:52 PM] nsy says: put your name in the deity field

[3:54:16 PM] nsy says: and how DO you make those cool smileys? i like the one with glasses - is that a capital bee?

[3:54:33 PM] nsy says: B-p

[3:54:37 PM] pD is feeling omnipotent

[3:54:39 PM] nsy says: 8)

[3:54:54 PM] pD says: i use the emoticons from skype

[3:54:58 PM] nsy says: BD

[3:55:04 PM] nsy says: cheater

[3:55:10 PM] pD is not omnipotent when it comes to smiley variations

[3:55:26 PM] pD says: i just know my limits - another sign of godliness in my dictionary

[3:55:55 PM] nsy says: heh. i guess AE reached his limit of us and dropped us like a hot potatoe

[3:56:18 PM] nsy says: eew - remove the "e" from the end of potato - ghastly

[3:57:26 PM] pD says: nsy just pulled a bush! nsy just pulled a bush! nsy just pulled a bush! nsy just pulled a bush!

[3:57:45 PM] pD says: the alternative scenario with AE is that

[3:58:17 PM] pD says: seeing that he's got a few hot potatoes on his hand, he is busy searching for sour cream, butter, and other condiments so he can enjoy 'em properly

[3:58:30 PM] pD says: that is what I (capital I, the godly kind) would do

[3:58:31 PM] nsy says: actually that was quayle, wasn’t it?

[3:58:57 PM] pD says: yeah, you are right

[3:58:59 PM] nsy says: well, either way - its worse for me!

[3:59:16 PM] pD says: so sorry, that i am confusing quayle and bush, not sure who to feel bad for

[3:59:33 PM] nsy says: heheh - true conundrum

[4:00:11 PM] nsy says: potato potaaahto

[4:01:31 PM] pD says: well, it got a complete paragraph in Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Quayle#Vice_Presidency

[4:02:26 PM] pD says: and there is even an entry about the kid whose spelling dan "corrected" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Figueroa

[4:02:50 PM] nsy says: wow, what a way to get your 15 minutes

[4:03:58 PM] pD says: and, here is more on the potatoe episode, apparently, it was an accepted spelling into the 19th century. Maybe dan was just a classy kind of guy...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potatoe#Spelling

[4:05:24 PM] nsy says: yes, that was my renaissance faire training haunting me with the potatoe thing.

[4:07:19 PM] pD says: yeah, yeah, yeah

[4:07:54 PM] nsy says: heh - not falling for it? fie upon thee, rapscallion!

[4:08:28 PM] pD says: what a way to talk to god, your nun teachers would have been scandalized

[4:08:43 PM] pD says: repent - thee rapscallion

[4:10:46 PM] nsy says: no! not the rulers of wrath from the nuns of repentance!

[4:12:42 PM] pD sighs - so much fun at other's expense, the way way for mirth

[4:12:51 PM] pD says: the best way

[4:17:10 PM] pD doing the hail mary for repentance

[4:17:25 PM] pD says: in classical greek: Θεοτόκε Παρθένε, χαῖρε, κεχαριτωμένη Μαρία, ὁ Κύριος μετὰ σοῦ. εὐλογημένη, σὺ ἐν γυναιξί, καὶ εὐλογημένος ὁ καρπὸς τῆς κοιλίας σου, ὅτι Σωτήρα ἔτεκες τῶν ψυχῶν ἡμῶν.

[4:17:55 PM] pD says: in latin (middle age): Ave María, grátia plena, Dóminus tecum.

Benedícta tu in muliéribus, et benedíctus fructus ventris tui, Jesus.

[4:18:20 PM] pD says: in latin (current official version): Ave María, grátia plena, Dóminus tecum. Benedícta tu in muliéribus, et benedíctus fructus ventris tui, Jesus.

Sancta María, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatóribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostræ. Amen.

[4:18:31 PM] pD says: wiki rocks! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary

[4:24:57 PM] nsy says: look for the hail holy queen - i had to memorize that when i was 12. i still remember the whole thing. its morbid.

[4:26:26 PM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Holy_Queen

[4:27:54 PM] pD says: or, salve regina, for the cognoscenti

[4:27:59 PM] pD says: talk about morbid

[4:28:17 PM] pD says: what i remember the most about hail mary is from the second god father film

[4:28:50 PM] pD says: when alfred (second brother who betrayed Michael the godfather) was fishing

[4:29:25 PM] pD says: alfred was whacked while fishing many years after the betray - Michael wanted to wait for their mother to die first

[4:29:36 PM] pD says: that was an extremely creepy ending

[4:29:48 PM] nsy says: sadly, another classic i have not seen all the way through (blasphemer).

[4:31:37 PM] AE jumps into the middle of everything without bothering to catch up to the 'story so far'.

[4:31:40 PM] AE says: Hi.

[4:31:49 PM] AE says: So, I've got these ideas for commercials for our products.

[4:31:53 PM] AE says: One is easy:

[4:32:08 PM] pD says: this is a clip from the film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQygwUBwnn4

[4:32:10 PM] AE says: there is a white area, nothing in it.

[4:32:16 PM] pD says:

[4:32:30 PM] pD says: beautiful cinematography

[4:32:52 PM] pD has changed the chat topic to "AE's commercial idea"

[4:33:14 PM] AE says: well now I'm watching the god father...

[4:34:02 PM] AE says: Ok.. where was I?

[4:34:08 PM] AE says: Oh, commercials...

[4:34:16 PM] AE says: there's this white room and a voice over:

[4:34:22 PM] AE says: "Your mail server"

[4:34:35 PM] AE says: then hands place a generic server in the white area.

[4:34:47 PM] AE says: "A delicate, dedicated piece of hardware."

[4:35:10 PM] AE says: "An integral and crucial part of your business infrastructure."

[4:35:22 PM] AE says: then a bunch of really heavy things fall on it, destroying the server.

[4:35:40 PM] AE says: "that's why you need [deleted]."

[4:35:59 PM] AE says: and a pair of hands puts [deleted] on top of the ruined server.

[4:36:36 PM] pD says: cool!

[4:36:41 PM] AE says: Commercial two (which I may have stolen from pD, or made up in my mind, I can't remember):

[4:36:59 PM] pD says: maybe drop a few sleazy (sales) looking people on the server

[4:37:01 PM] AE says: Guy is writing a letter and stuffing it in an envelope.

[4:37:15 PM] AE says: Camera pulls back a little so we can see him and a mail box.

[4:37:22 PM] AE says: there is a rope trailing off camera.

[4:37:51 PM] AE says: voice over: "Dear such and such. I'm sending you this in hopes you can use it. hope it finds you well.. blah blah blah blah."

[4:38:12 PM] AE says: person puts the envelope into the mail box.

[4:38:34 PM] AE says: camera pulls back following rope to a massive (boat, car, elephant, whatever).

[4:39:00 PM] AE says: Voice over describes [deleted] can help you!

[4:39:18 PM] AE says: Ok. Have to go get a massage now.

[4:39:27 PM] AE says: we should try and film some of these!

[4:39:31 PM] AE says: bye!

[4:41:35 PM] pD says: maybe AE just found the sour cream and stuff that he needed for the hot potatoes...

[4:41:37 PM] pD says: ciao

[4:53:13 PM] pD says: not to make light of dropping sales people onto servers - i do still think the Darth Vader as Shaft as a more interesting plot...

[4:53:11 PM] nsy says: ciao - go baby daddy

[4:53:26 PM] nsy says: maybe we can mix them somehow

[4:53:29 PM] pD says: oh, not quite time for me to leave for a bit

[4:53:35 PM] nsy says: oh, i see

[4:53:47 PM] nsy says: so, we can have darth vader levitating a server...

[4:56:39 PM] pD says: hahah! that would be a good one

[4:57:01 PM] pD says: maybe instead of air massage, he does the air transfer?

[4:57:08 PM] pD says: hmm... not as funny tho

[5:15:06 PM] pD says: okay, need to get ready to be baby daddy

[5:15:23 PM] nsy says: maybe he can levitate and drop the sales ppl on the server?

[5:16:05 PM] pD says: i think we are onto something here

breakfast - grits - steel cut oats - chocolate - carob - Jouvaud - day care - children - chicken - air gun

[11:28:58 AM] pD says: sorry to know that you were up so late last night

[11:29:11 AM] pD says: i assume you drove yourself instead of car pooled

[11:31:25 AM] nsy says: yep - my carpool is in boston this week. i brought mike's saturn yesterday because he is off thurs fri

[11:32:03 AM] pD says: mike! yes, the band dude

[11:32:56 AM] pD says: would he be willing to make a guest appearance?

[11:33:01 AM] nsy says: i was hoping to drive to LA last night and work from my moms house today, so i can see my sisters. maybe i'll leave tonight, but seems a lost cause without 3 days at least.

[11:33:19 AM] pD says: or, nsa chatters is too mickey mouse for him?

[11:33:34 AM] pD says: sorry, you lost me at the second half

[11:33:45 AM] pD says: so, you will not go?

[11:33:58 AM] nsy says: he just made breakfast - and we're about to eat - then he's running off to play disk golf, but i'll ask him during breakfast anyway ;)

[11:34:11 AM] nsy says: sorry - tired and blathering

[11:34:14 AM] pD says: well, we are ranked by google now

[11:34:16 AM] nsy says: back in a bit...

[11:34:25 AM] pD says: hopefully, that gives a touch of cachet

[11:34:31 AM] nsy says: neat-o!

[11:34:50 AM] pD says: what is for breakfast?

[11:50:05 AM] AE says: gruel.

[11:50:31 AM] pD says: grits is pretty good

[11:50:42 AM] AE says: "what are grits?"

[11:50:51 AM] AE says: "grits is free with breakfast."

[11:51:01 AM] AE says: "but what are grits?"

[11:51:16 AM] AE says: "grits are $1.50 extra."

[11:51:23 AM] AE says: "Ok. I'll have the grits."

[11:51:36 AM] AE is done talking to himself

[11:52:00 AM] pD says: Usually a breakfast item in the US Southern region. Made from the kernel of corn. When corn has been soaked in lye and the casing has been removed it becomes Hominy. The lye is rinsed out very well and the corn is left to harden. Then the swollen hominy is ground up to the texture of tiny pellets. When boiled with water, milk and butter it becomes a cereal similar to cream of wheat. It's used as a side dish for a good old fashioned Southern breakfast. ...

[11:52:07 AM] pD says: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS211US211&q=define%3a+grits

[11:52:48 AM] nsy says: is that a movie quote, AE?

[11:53:14 AM] pD says: http://www.ansonmills.com/page19/page41/files/page41_1.jpg

[11:53:32 AM] pD says: grits and bacon. hmm....

[11:53:32 AM] nsy says: mmm bbq grilled chicken apple sausage and country potatoes - yum!

[11:54:45 AM] pD says: y'all having grits in santa cruz?

[11:57:16 AM] nsy says: never been a fan of grits or cream of wheat - but oat meal is a different story...

[12:14:19 PM] pD says: steel cut oat meal

[12:14:22 PM] pD says: hmm....

[12:14:32 PM] pD doing the Homer Simpson

[12:14:59 PM] nsy says: don't know if i've had that...

[12:16:25 PM] pD says: http://www.paleocurrents.com/img/homer_drool.JPG

[12:17:06 PM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel-cut_oats

[12:17:37 PM] pD says: great texture and goes beautifully with cream and honey - steel cut oats

[12:21:13 PM] AE says: got to cook them right though, or they're crunchy.

[12:23:39 PM] nsy says: mmm - sounds tasty.

[12:23:53 PM] AE says: they're a little more filling than rolled oats.

[12:24:46 PM] pD says: steel cut oats does take more time to cook - about 20-30 minutes -depending on the cut - but it is worth it - if you have the time

[12:24:55 PM] AE says: I totally agree.

[12:25:09 PM] AE says: what do you put on them?

[12:25:27 PM] pD says: cream and honey as start

[12:25:31 PM] pD says: sometime i use brown sugar

[12:25:49 PM] AE says: cream and honey... wow! That sounds awesome!

[12:26:08 PM] pD says: for savory, i put in bacon and fried egg

[12:26:14 PM] pD says: probably would not work for you

[12:26:18 PM] pD says: tho

[12:26:42 PM] AE says: We put fresh berries and yogurt. Or syrup and nuts.

[12:27:40 PM] pD says: i like nuts too

[12:28:04 PM] pD says: i tend not to put (fresh) fruit, sometimes, there is too much acidity with fruit

[12:29:17 PM] nsy says: i like walnut or pecan bits and honey

[12:29:30 PM] nsy says: and cream of course

[12:30:47 PM] pD says: this is hypothetical, but i think avocado and a touch of balsamic would be quite nice too

[12:31:11 PM] pD says: or, you can do the japanese style with avocado and a touch of sea salt

[12:31:21 PM] pD says: hmm... avocado

[12:31:27 PM] pD doing the homer simpson

[12:31:55 PM] AE says: I love avocado with salt...

[12:32:01 PM] AE says: /joins pD

[12:32:07 PM] AE joins pD

[12:32:22 PM] pD says: we need bibs

[12:32:23 PM] nsy says: i once had "chocolate" pudding at a vegan shop that consisted of avocado and carob powder blended

[12:32:28 PM] AE says: heh

[12:32:32 PM] AE says: wow! how was it?

[12:32:38 PM] AE says: did it taste like pudding?

[12:32:50 PM] nsy says: not really, but it was very good!

[12:32:56 PM] AE says: wait... chocolate has no milk...

[12:33:01 PM] AE says: why substitute it?

[12:33:34 PM] nsy says: caffeine?

[12:34:03 PM] nsy says: why do people normally substitute carob for cocoa?

[12:34:07 PM] AE says: maybe... but vegans drink coffee...

[12:34:18 PM] AE says: because their taste buds are defective

[12:34:22 PM] nsy says: well, it was a "health food" type place

[12:34:34 PM] pD says: could be cost

[12:34:41 PM] AE says: yeah, well, only your MOM ever said health food had to taste bad.

[12:34:42 PM] pD says: cocoa butter is quite expensive

[12:34:52 PM] AE says: I consider chocolate healthier than carob.

[12:35:07 PM] pD says: so, if they use the dutch cocoa powder, that could significantly cut down on the cost

[12:35:29 PM] AE says: why? is that carob based?

[12:36:34 PM] pD says: sorry, got confused. i was thinking of cocoa

[12:36:37 PM] pD says: carob: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carob

[12:36:49 PM] pD says: did not know that it is a substitute

[12:39:01 PM] AE says: trust me. it's not.

[12:39:20 PM] nsy says: http://www.chow.com/stories/10491

[12:45:27 PM] pD says: i say, go for the real stuff

[12:49:22 PM] pD says: speaking of which - i also like to recommend Jouvaud: http://gc-gastronomic.blogspot.com/2004/12/jouvaud.html

[12:58:45 PM] nsy says: sounds de-lish!

[1:13:25 PM] pD says: sad to report that my absolutely favorite first son will be going to day care starting next week

[1:15:46 PM] AE says: don't do that!

[1:15:52 PM] AE says: we can make a fair job of it here!

[1:16:09 PM] AE says: bring him in! it would be great to help raise your son!~

[1:16:15 PM] pD says: too much EM waves in the office

[1:16:31 PM] AE says: we'll turn off all the lights when he's here then.

[1:16:41 PM] pD says: and computers

[1:16:59 PM] AE says: the lights produce more than the computers: the computers are shielded.

[1:17:01 PM] pD says: beside, our carpet is kind of yucky

[1:17:12 PM] AE says: even after we washed it... sheesh.

[1:17:20 PM] pD says: there is also the wireless thing

[1:17:31 PM] AE says: yeah... he'll love that!

[1:17:49 PM] pD says: anyway, the really sad part if that i will have to come in during normal hours now

[1:17:58 PM] pD says: since i have to leave around 5pm to pick him up

[1:18:01 PM] AE says: wow...

[1:18:10 PM] pD is not complaining about the picking up part

[1:18:17 PM] AE says: what a change... you're usually here pretty late.

[1:18:41 PM] pD says: i use to be the last one in - but, some people have been beating me on that score...

[1:18:48 PM] pD says: and, i am not talking about nsy

[1:19:42 PM] nsy says: heh

[1:19:51 PM] nsy says: so lonely...

[1:54:24 PM] pD says: yeah, go ahead blame it on my favorite first son

[1:55:56 PM] AE says: children make us grow up.

[1:56:08 PM] pD says: they don't!

[1:56:09 PM] AE says: whether we want to or not.

[1:56:21 PM] pD says: they make us long for the truly good old days

[1:56:29 PM] pD says: that is how we become old farts...

[1:56:42 PM] AE says: they show us how to appreciate what we once had.

[1:57:09 PM] pD says: walking bare foot uphill both ways?

[1:58:11 PM] AE says: but they can be darn cute... here's the picture my daughter drew of nsy:

[1:59:03 PM] AE sent file Photo
to members of this chat

[2:00:31 PM] pD says: nsy in her pirate gear with a thawed chicken on her shoulder

[2:00:41 PM] pD says: that is cool

[2:00:59 PM] pD says: can she draw me on the plank, ready to take the plunge?

[2:01:34 PM] nsy says: just the coolest thing EVER!

[2:02:04 PM] pD says: thawed chicken? definitely

[2:02:27 PM] pD says: speaking of which, i remember a story about 'em chickens

[2:03:03 PM] pD says: so, part of the new testing for airplane is to make sure that it does not get damaged (significantly) when a bird flies into it as it happens sometimes around airports

[2:03:24 PM] AE says: is this the chicken catapult story?

[2:03:34 PM] pD says: so, there is an air gun that you can use to shot chicken (being the most economical ammunition choice) at the air plane

[2:03:37 PM] pD says: for testing, you know

[2:03:54 PM] pD says: one day, a call came in and there was panic on the other line

[2:04:12 PM] pD says: apparently, the chicken cut through cleanly and made some serious damage to the latest model in test

[2:04:35 PM] pD says: upon further inspection, it was determined, that the operator used frozen chicken instead of thawed chicken

[2:04:47 PM] pD says: thereby rendering the ballistic much more potent

[2:05:00 PM] pD says: is this the same catapult story you heard, AE?

[2:05:12 PM] AE says: yes. they had it on MythBusters...

[2:05:35 PM] pD says: so, did it actually happen?

[2:05:40 PM] pD has no cable

[2:05:42 PM] AE says: http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2004/02/mythbusters_chicken_gun.html

[2:07:24 PM] pD says: hahah!

[2:07:29 PM] pD says: but, what actually happened?

[2:07:43 PM] pD says: according to the mythbuster thing, the thawed chicken was annihilated?

[2:07:51 PM] AE says: pureed.

[2:07:57 PM] pD says: so, that means, they could not have fired a thawed chicken?

[2:08:09 PM] AE says: they did. they turned the pressure down in the air cannon.

[2:08:18 PM] pD says: was that the actual reason why a frozen is preferred?

[2:08:24 PM] AE says: then they were able to launch it without destroying it.

[2:08:39 PM] AE says: don't know... makes sense though.

[2:08:42 PM] pD says: i see, so it is the acceleration that purees the chicken

[2:08:54 PM] AE says: probably.

[2:09:15 PM] pD says: base on physically, it is true that when it is mass + velocity, the state of the matter does not matter that much

[2:09:49 PM] pD says: unless, of course, the aerodynamics changes significantly with a thawed chicken whereas a frozen one keeps its shape and thereby reduces the air drag

[2:10:25 PM] pD says: also, consider that a frozen chicken would have a smaller impact surface, it would also translate into high pressure per given surface area

[2:10:32 PM] pD says: so, again, that makes intuitive sense

[2:11:52 PM] nsy says: ask Y about how to stump an engineer about the Bernoulli effect. too much story to write, sorry

[2:12:18 PM] pD says: the thing that gives the wing the lift?

[2:12:33 PM] pD says: i will

[2:13:09 PM] nsy says: yep

[2:13:22 PM] pD says: vroom!

[3:13:41 PM] AE says: when the chicken hits the window, kinetic energy is distributed: both to the windscreen and the chicken.

[3:14:15 PM] AE says: if the chicken has a higher tensile strength (frozen), then it will impart more of the kinetic energy into the windscreen.

[3:14:31 PM] AE says: the chicken will take slightly less damage.

[3:15:05 PM] AE says: however, i believe the ability of the chicken to retain it's shape probably results in a higher velocity/impact speed.

[3:17:30 PM] AE says: well speaking of chickens, i've got to fly the coupe here.

[3:17:59 PM] AE says: may your weekend contain a perfect moment.

[3:24:10 PM] pD says: what is chicken's bird call?

[3:25:04 PM] AE says: [deleted]?

[3:25:24 PM] AE says: oh wait. I'm leaving... Bye!

[3:28:46 PM] pD says: AE is still here

[3:28:54 PM] pD says: liar liar pants on fire

[3:39:41 PM] pD says: AE is still here

[3:39:43 PM] pD sighs

[3:48:30 PM] pD says: no job is that good...

[9:24:50 AM] AE says: this job is.

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