[7/25/2007 11:52:55 AM] pD says: howdy! howdy!
[7/25/2007 11:53:02 AM] pD says: so, did i miss anything good?
[7/25/2007 12:12:40 PM] nsy says: the water sports yesterday were fun. they covered the new product features, but you can get slides of those.
[7/25/2007 12:13:18 PM] pD says: cool! i should
[7/25/2007 12:13:25 PM] nsy says: i didn’t know you already looked at a Norse myth book, so i brought you another one - you don’t need to read it if your myth curiosity has been satiated.
[7/25/2007 12:13:43 PM] pD says: sorry for missing the festivity - the little boss turned 1 yesterday
[7/25/2007 12:13:47 PM] pD says: oh, yes, thanks for he book
[7/25/2007 12:13:57 PM] pD says: if you have no objection, i would still like to browse it
[7/25/2007 12:13:58 PM] nsy says: happy b-day little boss! woo hoo
[7/25/2007 12:14:10 PM] nsy says: sure - keep it as long as you like
[7/25/2007 12:14:18 PM] pD says: i did read the cliff note version from AE, but, would like to get a bit more into it
[7/25/2007 12:14:30 PM] pD says: i see a lot of similarity to greek and roman mythology
[7/25/2007 12:14:50 PM] pD says: the b-day thing was funny because the little boss inadvertently planted his foot onto the b-day cake
[7/25/2007 12:14:53 PM] nsy says: yes, same premises. like soap operas and novellas, really
[7/25/2007 12:15:09 PM] pD says: i have pix
[7/25/2007 12:15:09 PM] nsy says: ha! that’s classic!
[7/25/2007 12:15:20 PM] pD says: so, i will be in the position to black mail him
[7/25/2007 12:15:22 PM] nsy says: ooh - where/how can i see them?
[7/25/2007 12:15:22 PM] pD says: later on
[7/25/2007 12:15:39 PM] pD says: i need to bring them in
[7/25/2007 12:16:26 PM] nsy says: that would be great. my first b-day my mom made me a cherry vanilla cake from scratch and i wouldn't eat any. i just asked for pretzels
[7/25/2007 12:16:51 PM] nsy says: "prets"
[7/25/2007 12:17:22 PM] nsy says: how are you holding up with the visitors?
[7/25/2007 1:20:42 PM] pD says: oh, we just need to take turn to breath with so many in a confined space
[7/25/2007 1:20:46 PM] pD says: actually, it is going okay
[7/25/2007 1:20:51 PM] pD says: i have given them maps and my car
[7/25/2007 1:21:00 PM] pD says: and, so far, they have not been lost too badly
[7/25/2007 1:21:09 PM] pD has changed the chat topic to "google this"
[7/25/2007 1:21:21 PM] pD says: this is an NSA Chatters conversation, btw
[7/25/2007 1:21:33 PM] pD says: so, i have been a regular user of google - like most people
[7/25/2007 1:21:49 PM] pD says: but, could somebody explain why the attraction with the google mail service thingie?
[7/25/2007 1:21:55 PM] pD says: what is wrong with what we have got today?
[7/25/2007 1:52:43 PM] AE says: you can store up to 10 GB of mail.
[7/25/2007 1:52:57 PM] AE says: you can search it with Google's algorithms
[7/25/2007 1:53:10 PM] AE says: and it's not in Singapore.
[7/25/2007 1:54:31 PM] pD says: so, we are dumping Outlook en mass? I like my outlook...
[7/25/2007 1:54:40 PM] AE says: no, you can still use Outlook
[7/25/2007 1:54:51 PM] pD says: also, how do I backup my email box? i use to just make a copy of my .pst onto a network drive
[7/25/2007 1:54:56 PM] AE says: If you still wish to hold on to outdated technology, that's your issue.
[7/25/2007 1:55:00 PM] AE says: yes
[7/25/2007 1:55:11 PM] AE says: as long as there is room on it.
[7/25/2007 1:55:11 PM] pD is an old fart
[7/25/2007 1:55:22 PM] pD says: so, i can still back up my .pst?
[7/25/2007 1:55:43 PM] AE says: of course. Gmail is now acting as our POP/SMTP server.
[7/25/2007 1:56:03 PM] AE says: so, the functionality in Outlook is unchanged, it's just getting mail from a different server.
[7/25/2007 1:56:15 PM] pD says: that is a good point
[7/25/2007 1:56:17 PM] AE says: and... all the same functionality is offered on the website.
[7/25/2007 1:56:31 PM] AE says: so if you *want* to, you can dump Outlook.
[7/25/2007 1:56:36 PM] AE says: but you don't have to.
[7/25/2007 1:56:52 PM] pD says: i grew up with DOS, 'nuf said
[7/25/2007 1:56:57 PM] pD says: i still like DOS
[7/25/2007 1:57:09 PM] AE says: well, we can find you a copy of Pine if you like...
[7/25/2007 1:57:14 PM] AE says: you'll feel right at home then.
[7/25/2007 1:57:31 PM] pD says: i also liked pine
[7/25/2007 1:57:37 PM] pD says: although it is good to have a GUI
[7/25/2007 1:57:51 PM] AE says: Pine was nice because it NEVER crashed.
[7/25/2007 1:58:00 PM] pD says: i think, in the old days when it is strictly command line, it is helpful to exclude a lot of people
[7/25/2007 1:58:02 PM] AE says: but yeah, functionality wise, it's pretty old.
[7/25/2007 1:58:22 PM] pD says: but, since my mom is on email, i have slowly shifted to GUI...
[7/25/2007 1:58:47 PM] AE says: .Mac?
[7/25/2007 1:58:57 PM] pD says: never have been a mac person
[7/25/2007 1:59:02 PM] pD says: i have nothing against it
[7/25/2007 1:59:03 PM] AE says: ah. yahoo then?
[7/25/2007 1:59:06 PM] pD says: intellectually,
[7/25/2007 1:59:30 PM] pD says: but, of the several times that i tried to use mac, I found the UI very confusing
[7/25/2007 1:59:38 PM] pD says: i think that is a function of my PC-centric world view
[7/25/2007 1:59:46 PM] pD says: but, i did use AppleIIe
[7/25/2007 1:59:46 PM] AE says: yes. it's not what you're used to.
[7/25/2007 1:59:48 PM] pD says: great box
[7/25/2007 1:59:51 PM] AE says: what is that?
[7/25/2007 2:00:03 PM] pD says: i used to run the Basic interpreter to scar people
[7/25/2007 2:00:12 PM] pD says: Apple's old old computer
[7/25/2007 2:00:17 PM] pD says: Apple II e
[7/25/2007 2:00:21 PM] AE says: Oh... got it. hehe.
[7/25/2007 2:00:24 PM] pD says: it was more like PC than the closed system
[7/25/2007 2:00:44 PM] AE says: and now with OS X they've gone full circle.
[7/25/2007 2:01:03 PM] AE says: you can use most open source/Linux apps with little modification.
[7/25/2007 2:01:05 PM] AE says: most
[7/25/2007 2:01:09 PM] pD says: oh, what is with OS X?
[7/25/2007 2:01:09 PM] AE says: not all
[7/25/2007 2:01:21 PM] AE says: it uses a FreeBSD core
[7/25/2007 2:01:40 PM] AE says: they coupled it with some other kernel mods and called it Darwin.
[7/25/2007 2:01:47 PM] AE says: but it's Unix.
[7/25/2007 2:01:54 PM] pD says: cool! I am all for "de facto" standards
[7/25/2007 2:02:18 PM] pD says: i think the attraction of DOS/PC world for me is that it is easy to hack
[7/25/2007 2:02:20 PM] AE says: I wish they would extend standards to those little machines at the checkout counter!
[7/25/2007 2:03:05 PM] AE says: each one is different! Each store has little markers on their machine helping you find the right button to push, and then the cashier still needs to help most people.
[7/25/2007 2:03:57 PM] pD says: actually, in Korea, you just point your cell phone and it pays (deduct from a debit account)
[7/25/2007 2:04:15 PM] pD says: when it comes to retailing electronics, the US is quite behind
[7/25/2007 2:55:28 PM] pD says: so, what were you guys doing this morning when we were having our off site excitement?
[7/25/2007 2:58:58 PM] AE says: working.
[7/25/2007 2:59:34 PM] pD says: you should have come to the off-site then... ;)
[7/25/2007 3:45:15 PM] pD says: wait! AE is celebrating 10 years of marriage
[7/25/2007 3:45:22 PM] pD says: but, i thought his son is around 10 years old
[7/25/2007 3:45:33 PM] pD doing the math in his mind
[7/25/2007 3:45:36 PM] pD says: with great difficulty
[7/25/2007 3:46:09 PM] pD says: hmm...
[7/25/2007 3:46:44 PM] nsy says: actually, 11 years, i think
[7/25/2007 3:46:59 PM] pD says: his kid or marriage?
[7/25/2007 3:47:10 PM] nsy says: marriage
[7/25/2007 3:47:10 PM] pD says: :)!
[7/25/2007 3:47:30 PM] nsy says: yes, the math is close...
[7/25/2007 3:47:38 PM] pD says: darn! could have been a good story...
[7/25/2007 3:48:39 PM] pD says: btw, is AE coming in on Friday?
[7/25/2007 3:57:09 PM] pD says: have you seen the transformer film? i was told that it was pretty entertaining
[7/25/2007 3:57:39 PM] pD says: i am looking for entertainment ideas for my house guests so they do not kill each other
[7/25/2007 3:58:09 PM] pD says: oh, i also saw the film Shooter with Mark Walberg
[7/25/2007 3:58:26 PM] pD says: he is pretty entertaining as an action actor
[7/25/2007 3:58:36 PM] pD says: wasn't he a rapper before or something?
[7/25/2007 5:15:24 PM] nsy says: marky mark and the funky bunch, and i think he might have been a backstreet boy too
[6:13:31 AM] AE says: AE + Kusum = 11 years
[6:13:40 AM] AE says: Quinn = 10 years
[6:13:46 AM] AE says: Megan = 6 years
[6:14:04 AM] AE says: AE will be watching the Transformer's movie on Friday, so will not be coming in.
[9:25:02 AM] pD says: cool! i would like to get a full analysis of the film next week
[9:25:21 AM] pD says: btw, what does Kusum mean? it is a cool name
[2:04:58 PM] pD says: guess where i just went to lunch
[2:05:44 PM] AE says: Oh! I love guessing games!
[2:05:49 PM] AE says: Um... Mars?
[2:05:59 PM] AE says: no wait.... uh....
[2:05:59 PM] AE says: Mars?
[2:06:04 PM] pD says: wrong direction
[2:06:07 PM] pD says: but, the right idea
[2:06:16 PM] pD says: one syllable destination
[2:06:22 PM] AE says: Oh... Moon?
[2:06:38 PM] pD says: good guess, even if not right
[2:06:41 PM] pD says: keep going
[2:06:54 PM] AE says: Sun? (I hear their food is really spicy!)
[2:07:05 PM] AE says: Earth?
[2:07:17 PM] AE says: Mings?
[2:07:27 PM] pD says: gotta get to the Mars and Moon path
[2:07:30 PM] pD says: think M
[2:07:36 PM] pD says: yes, Ming's
[2:08:04 PM] AE says: Wow! I'd love to try their food sometime!
[2:08:10 PM] AE says: what did you have?
[2:08:49 PM] pD says: dim sum, you know the usual
[2:09:00 PM] pD says: i was trying to get people to order dishes at la cart
[2:09:07 PM] pD says: but, dim sum was the preferred method
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Thursday, July 26, 2007
Friday, July 13, 2007
allergy - conspiracies - federal reserves - dorks - geeks - nerds - mings - google ranking - kord (king of real dorks)
[7/12/2007 10:12:04 AM] pD says: allergy sucks!
[7/12/2007 10:12:30 AM] pD says: i have blown through (literally and figuratively) a good stack of tissue papers this morning already
[7/12/2007 10:20:34 AM] nsy says: yikes! do you know what you're allergic to?
[7/12/2007 10:20:53 AM] pD says: O2
[7/12/2007 10:20:55 AM] AE says: trees
[7/12/2007 10:21:14 AM] pD says: organic objects
[7/12/2007 10:21:15 AM] AE says: oh, maybe you're alergic to tissue paper!
[7/12/2007 10:21:48 AM] AE says: it's a plot by the tissue paper industry!
[7/12/2007 10:22:12 AM] AE says: everytime you blow your nose it makes your nose run! A viscious circle...
[7/12/2007 10:22:22 AM] AE says: first they engineered the death of the cloth hanky...
[7/12/2007 10:22:37 AM] AE says: then they subverted us to the paper tissue...
[7/12/2007 10:22:53 AM] AE says: now they've imbued them with a special powder that makes you sneeze!
[7/12/2007 10:23:19 AM] AE says: and if they haven't they should! Because it would be good for the economy!
[7/12/2007 10:24:01 AM] pD says: hahaha!
[7/12/2007 10:24:29 AM] pD says: you remind me of the character from "King of the Hill" who believes in conspirarcy theories of all sorts
[7/12/2007 10:25:00 AM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Hill
[7/12/2007 10:25:23 AM] pD says: Dale: Dale Gribble
[7/12/2007 10:25:50 AM] pD says:
http://www.fox.com/kingofthehill/bios/images/bio_img_dale.gif
[7/12/2007 10:26:20 AM] pD says: btw, why would imbuing sneeze power be good for the economy?
[7/12/2007 10:27:37 AM] AE says: because massive tissue production will help deforestation.
[7/12/2007 10:27:46 AM] AE says: and trees are bad for the economy.
[7/12/2007 10:28:57 AM] pD says: AE, i know you are being facetious, but that still makes no sense
[7/12/2007 10:29:09 AM] AE says: ok, what is US currency printed on?
[7/12/2007 10:29:59 AM] AE says: a cloth pulp mixture.
[7/12/2007 10:30:01 AM] AE says: and what is counterfiet currency printed on?
[7/12/2007 10:30:02 AM] AE says: paper
[7/12/2007 10:30:31 AM] AE says: so, remove the paper, you remove the material component of counerfiet money.
[7/12/2007 10:30:55 AM] AE says: since counterfieting costs the US govenerment billions a year...
[7/12/2007 10:31:08 AM] AE says: it would be good for the economy to reduce or totally remove it.
[7/12/2007 10:31:28 AM] AE says: not to mention the side savings we'd all incurr in not having to do as much paperwork...
[7/12/2007 10:33:09 AM] AE says: Ok. Off to do an instal.
[7/12/2007 10:36:41 AM] pD says: well, within the US, the move is to go into electonic money. Most of the transactions are done via credit cards already. and, larger ticket items are done via check. so, the amount of paper money in circulation is quite minimum.
[7/12/2007 10:37:38 AM] pD says: and, even the use of check is dropping significantly. so much that Fed reserve announced recently that they will consolidate their check processing facilities and cut over 1,700 positions related to that process: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=111&sid=1175678
[7/12/2007 10:38:39 AM] pD says: interestingly, most of the US paper money circulates outside of the US as it is considered a good store of value - be you drug lord or Japanese tourists visiting Uganda
[7/12/2007 10:40:00 AM] pD says: on that basis, it has been the intention of the US mint to increase the frequency of paper money design. This does not deter counterfeits per se, but it does significantly increases the costs of printing large quantity. i think one of the latest in disucussion was to embed RFID onto the bill
[7/12/2007 10:40:55 AM] pD says: http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20011219S0016
[7/12/2007 10:41:17 AM] pD says: but, that does raise significant privacy concerns because it becomes a de-facto tracking machanism.
[7/12/2007 10:42:31 AM] pD subscribes to all the federal reserve publications
[7/12/2007 10:42:45 AM] pD is a dork
[7/12/2007 10:59:10 AM] pD has changed the chat topic to "dork v geek"
[7/12/2007 10:59:22 AM] pD says: so, here is a question that i ponder every so often
[7/12/2007 10:59:35 AM] pD says: what is the difference between a dork vis-a-vis a geek?
[7/12/2007 10:59:53 AM] pD says: equally importantly, who would win when pitted against each otehr
[7/12/2007 12:00:44 PM] pD says: saw two funny bumper stickers today
[7/12/2007 12:01:01 PM] pD says: one says: my kid is a honor student but my president is an idiot
[7/12/2007 12:01:09 PM] pD says: the other is graphic in format
[7/12/2007 12:01:35 PM] pD says: nixon (head shot) - brain (a picture) = bush (head shot)
[7/12/2007 2:02:48 PM] pD says: this is a blantant commercial - becasue they are - from Dailey. Go on their site and you can see some really interesting ad's. Never seen any of them - then, I do not watch TV often: http://www.daileyads.com/
[7/12/2007 4:50:28 PM] pD says: btw, how often does AE get a massage, i am jealous
[7/12/2007 7:52:03 PM] AE says: he gets one about once every 6 weeks.
[7/12/2007 7:52:29 PM] AE says: and the debate I've heard is Geek v Nerd.
[7/12/2007 7:52:58 PM] AE says: It's an East Coast (Nerd's are cool) vs West Coast (Geeks rule) thing.
[7/12/2007 7:53:24 PM] AE says: if you call someone a geek in New York, it's like calling them a nerd or dork on our coast.
[11:19:39 AM] pD says: need to grab lunch
[11:19:46 AM] pD says: wanna walk to ming's, AE?
[11:31:20 AM] AE says: yes!
[11:31:28 AM] AE says: I'll go run and then we'll walk over.
[11:43:11 AM] pD says: i want: Mings Special Hong Kong Pan Fried Noodles
[11:43:47 AM] pD says: btw, i found the msuic at Ming's site, very distrubing: http://www.mings.com/
[11:43:59 AM] pD says: bad music is bad music is bad music
[12:06:57 PM] pD says: I can see how nerds vs geeks would be considered positive traits on the coastal context
[12:07:31 PM] pD says: but, i guess i am more exploring the deragatory side of things. when do you call somebody a dork vs a geek - what isthe difference?
[12:27:43 PM] AE says: on this coast at least, Geek is a positive term.
[12:32:50 PM] AE says: sweet and sour mock pork
[12:33:17 PM] AE says: (650)856-7700
[2:50:57 PM] AE says: But on the east coast Geek is a negative term.
[2:50:59 PM] AE says: Geek vs dork...
[2:51:14 PM] AE says: I think dork is universally a derogatory term.
[2:51:21 PM] AE says: but geeks can be cool, hip.
[2:51:33 PM] pD says: that is fair.
[2:51:35 PM] AE says: http://geekspeak.org, for example. Those guys are way cool!
[2:52:00 PM] pD says: but, let's transport ourselves outside of the silicon valley or any tech centers, how would the two terms play out?
[2:52:35 PM] AE says: my relatives know I'm a geek. In Texas, I was introduced as : "This is my grandson, he's a geek."
[2:52:41 PM] AE says: this was received very well.
[2:52:58 PM] AE says: so it was not a derogatory term, and the people invovled were octogenarians at least.
[2:53:13 PM] pD says: hahah!
[2:53:22 PM] AE says: plus it's entered our common lives as non-derogatory: geeksquad is an example.
[2:53:38 PM] pD says: so, i guess i can only refer to my self as a dork, then
[2:53:47 PM] AE says: Ok... that's a bad example, because people (especially their geek piers) think they suck.
[2:53:55 PM] AE says: why? what are you trying to portray?
[2:54:03 PM] AE says: un-hipness?
[2:54:06 PM] AE says: un-coolness?
[2:54:13 PM] AE says: cluelessness?
[2:55:06 PM] pD says: soemthing like that
[2:55:24 PM] pD says: just like people who get into goth and punk in the initial stage
[2:55:35 PM] pD says: being un-hip is the hip thing
[2:56:18 PM] pD says: similarly, it is like black people calling each otehr nigga' or women refers themselves as bitches
[2:56:39 PM] pD says: i think, as an exercise, it is interesting because it initially adds a shock value,
[2:57:09 PM] pD says: but, as it gets cooped by the main(er) stream, it turns into something edgy/hip and lose much of its punch
[2:57:14 PM] AE says: shock to whom? Most people are too narcasitic to understand something like that.
[2:57:30 PM] AE says: are you trying to find the next edge?
[2:57:32 PM] pD says: imagine that, 5 years from now, "dork" is a good word
[2:57:48 PM] AE says: like geek.
[2:58:13 PM] pD says: oh, as a social phenemonem (i am butchering this word), it is intersting to see the evolution of words
[2:58:14 PM] AE says: when i was in highschool, being a geek or nerd was synonomus with being a dork.
[2:58:39 PM] AE says: and usually resulted in lowered enjoyment of social activities.
[2:58:51 PM] AE says: unless you count swirlies as a social activity.
[2:58:56 PM] pD says: that is a good example, now that the word "geek" has taken on a different set of meaning - esepcailly after the dot com thing
[2:59:14 PM] AE says: yeah. you know why?
[2:59:22 PM] pD says: why
[2:59:25 PM] AE says: beause the geeks were rich!
[2:59:38 PM] AE says: suddenly those geeks from highschool were driving porches
[2:59:43 PM] AE says: porches?
[2:59:48 PM] AE says: can you drive a porch?
[2:59:55 PM] AE says: you know what I mean.
[2:59:58 PM] pD says: not sure if that is a valid test - for example, i would quality both bill gates and warren buffets as more dorky than geeky
[3:00:10 PM] pD says: and they ain't poor
[3:00:14 PM] AE says: yea. and look at how popular they are.
[3:00:19 PM] pD says: porsche
[3:00:24 PM] AE says: pooch?
[3:00:48 PM] AE says: bill gates was hugely unknown in high school, I bet.
[3:01:14 PM] AE says: so I think that very much proves my point.
[3:01:27 PM] AE says: until he became a billionaire he was not much known.
[3:01:40 PM] pD says: NSA Chatters
[3:01:45 PM] pD says: btw, that was a commercial break
[3:01:47 PM] AE says: now there are probably very few people in the world who don't know him.
[3:01:49 PM] AE says: haha.
[3:02:00 PM] pD says: i noted that our google ranking has dropped since we do not refer to our own title often
[3:02:04 PM] AE says: Google that, biatch!
[3:02:21 PM] pD says: i would occasionally drop that in just becasue i am a ranking whore
[3:02:28 PM] AE says: So we need to start mentioning that NSA Chatters is going down in rankings?
[3:02:29 PM] pD says: (rofl)
[3:02:39 PM] pD says: that is a good start
[3:02:54 PM] pD says: speaking of bill gates, i think he was pretty well known in various circles
[3:02:55 PM] AE says: Or that NSA Chatters is going to one day rule the blogging universe?
[3:03:02 PM] AE says: Like where?
[3:03:03 PM] pD says: fame is a relative thing
[3:03:23 PM] pD says: oh, he was the first one to sell a Basic compiler
[3:03:34 PM] pD says: that is how Microsoft got started
[3:03:41 PM] pD says: he also did not shy from being an asshole
[3:03:55 PM] pD says: he was suiting everyone for copying/pirating his compiler
[3:04:01 PM] pD says: that was considered by unhip
[3:04:12 PM] pD says: then, of course, IBM called on him for the OS
[3:04:40 PM] pD says: and, i read somewhere that fairly early in Microsoft's life, there has been a person dedicated to answer all the "fan mails" for bill
[3:04:53 PM] pD says: apparently, he got a tonne of marriage proposals
[3:05:22 PM] AE says: right, but that was after.
[3:05:30 PM] AE says: before he started M$, who was he?
[3:05:36 PM] AE says: some geek.
[3:07:55 PM] pD says: i think we are mixing several discussions here
[3:08:14 PM] pD says: one of the points for discussion is the difference between geek and dork
[3:08:27 PM] AE says: ok. you're a dork. i'm a geek.
[3:08:28 PM] pD says: on this point, i do not believe there is a clear answer beyond the fact that current usage
[3:08:40 PM] AE says: so now it's up to you to define who you are.
[3:08:44 PM] AE says: and i'll do the same.
[3:08:45 PM] pD says: is such that geek has a preferred image
[3:09:05 PM] AE says: it doesn't matter to me. I was a geek long before it was cool.
[3:09:08 PM] pD says: then, there is a discussion on what makes geek a preferred/popular word
[3:09:17 PM] AE says: i played with computers and model rockets in high school.
[3:09:24 PM] AE says: i spent friday nights gaming with other geeks.
[3:09:24 PM] pD says: the concludsion is that if you are rich, people would love you
[3:09:40 PM] AE says: ... i don't know that love is the right word.
[3:09:46 PM] AE says: more... know you? respect you?
[3:09:54 PM] AE says: i don't know if that's accurate either.
[3:10:07 PM] pD says: that is not in dispute and when Bill gates goes from a geek to a uber-rich geek in the eyes of the public is a debate on degree as oppose to definition
[3:11:04 PM] pD says: finally, there is the point of discussion on the usage of a word in the greater social context - words such as bitch, nigga, etc.
[3:11:29 PM] pD says: and, as there is no "answer" on that one as such, my proposal is to call myself as "dork"
[3:11:42 PM] pD says: becasue being a "dork" is the new un-hip
[3:11:48 PM] pD says: which makes you/me hip
[3:12:09 PM] pD says: which is definitely a very sophmoric logic,
[3:12:12 PM] AE says: you calling me a dork?
[3:12:22 PM] pD says: but, it makes me happy
[3:12:26 PM] AE says: LOL
[3:12:27 PM] pD says: i call myself a dork
[3:12:37 PM] pD says: you can call youself whatever you like
[3:12:42 PM] AE says: then it's up to you to define dorkdom.
[3:12:50 PM] pD says: but, i do claim the first dorkhood
[3:13:09 PM] AE says: Ok. We'll refer to you as sir dork.
[3:13:21 PM] AE says: if we had Lindsey on line we could make it official.
[3:13:24 PM] pD says: spellt backward, dork is kord
[3:13:26 PM] AE says: where is she, anyway?
[3:13:43 PM] pD says: kord is like a cord (let's say its a norse spelling)
[3:13:56 PM] pD says: and, what is a cord - it connects you with the mother ship
[3:13:59 PM] AE says: it's an acronym: King Of Real Dorks
[3:14:13 PM] pD says: and, surely, it is like the pope - also known as pontif
[3:14:30 PM] pD says: from the word that means bridge which is who he is - the brdige between men and god
[3:15:02 PM] pD says: so, King of Real Dorks, is nothing but a code for being the connectiion with the omnipotent
[3:15:13 PM] pD says: yeah, where is lindsey?
[3:15:21 PM] pD says: is she on other IM's?
[3:15:35 PM] AE says: congatulations! we'll all be asking you for stuff from above now.
[3:15:37 PM] AE says: nope.
[3:15:43 PM] AE says: Lindsey is MIA.
[3:16:01 PM] AE says: Well... time for me to battle the lords of chaos.
[3:16:12 PM] pD says: no probolem, i am never shy on making up stuff out of thin air
[3:16:22 PM] pD says: have a safe drive home and a good weekend
[3:16:26 PM] AE says: haha. thank you.
[3:16:31 PM] AE says: you have a good weekend as well!
[3:16:37 PM] pD says: ciao
==
NSA Chatters crew
[7/12/2007 10:12:30 AM] pD says: i have blown through (literally and figuratively) a good stack of tissue papers this morning already
[7/12/2007 10:20:34 AM] nsy says: yikes! do you know what you're allergic to?
[7/12/2007 10:20:53 AM] pD says: O2
[7/12/2007 10:20:55 AM] AE says: trees
[7/12/2007 10:21:14 AM] pD says: organic objects
[7/12/2007 10:21:15 AM] AE says: oh, maybe you're alergic to tissue paper!
[7/12/2007 10:21:48 AM] AE says: it's a plot by the tissue paper industry!
[7/12/2007 10:22:12 AM] AE says: everytime you blow your nose it makes your nose run! A viscious circle...
[7/12/2007 10:22:22 AM] AE says: first they engineered the death of the cloth hanky...
[7/12/2007 10:22:37 AM] AE says: then they subverted us to the paper tissue...
[7/12/2007 10:22:53 AM] AE says: now they've imbued them with a special powder that makes you sneeze!
[7/12/2007 10:23:19 AM] AE says: and if they haven't they should! Because it would be good for the economy!
[7/12/2007 10:24:01 AM] pD says: hahaha!
[7/12/2007 10:24:29 AM] pD says: you remind me of the character from "King of the Hill" who believes in conspirarcy theories of all sorts
[7/12/2007 10:25:00 AM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Hill
[7/12/2007 10:25:23 AM] pD says: Dale: Dale Gribble
[7/12/2007 10:25:50 AM] pD says:
[7/12/2007 10:26:20 AM] pD says: btw, why would imbuing sneeze power be good for the economy?
[7/12/2007 10:27:37 AM] AE says: because massive tissue production will help deforestation.
[7/12/2007 10:27:46 AM] AE says: and trees are bad for the economy.
[7/12/2007 10:28:57 AM] pD says: AE, i know you are being facetious, but that still makes no sense
[7/12/2007 10:29:09 AM] AE says: ok, what is US currency printed on?
[7/12/2007 10:29:59 AM] AE says: a cloth pulp mixture.
[7/12/2007 10:30:01 AM] AE says: and what is counterfiet currency printed on?
[7/12/2007 10:30:02 AM] AE says: paper
[7/12/2007 10:30:31 AM] AE says: so, remove the paper, you remove the material component of counerfiet money.
[7/12/2007 10:30:55 AM] AE says: since counterfieting costs the US govenerment billions a year...
[7/12/2007 10:31:08 AM] AE says: it would be good for the economy to reduce or totally remove it.
[7/12/2007 10:31:28 AM] AE says: not to mention the side savings we'd all incurr in not having to do as much paperwork...
[7/12/2007 10:33:09 AM] AE says: Ok. Off to do an instal.
[7/12/2007 10:36:41 AM] pD says: well, within the US, the move is to go into electonic money. Most of the transactions are done via credit cards already. and, larger ticket items are done via check. so, the amount of paper money in circulation is quite minimum.
[7/12/2007 10:37:38 AM] pD says: and, even the use of check is dropping significantly. so much that Fed reserve announced recently that they will consolidate their check processing facilities and cut over 1,700 positions related to that process: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=111&sid=1175678
[7/12/2007 10:38:39 AM] pD says: interestingly, most of the US paper money circulates outside of the US as it is considered a good store of value - be you drug lord or Japanese tourists visiting Uganda
[7/12/2007 10:40:00 AM] pD says: on that basis, it has been the intention of the US mint to increase the frequency of paper money design. This does not deter counterfeits per se, but it does significantly increases the costs of printing large quantity. i think one of the latest in disucussion was to embed RFID onto the bill
[7/12/2007 10:40:55 AM] pD says: http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20011219S0016
[7/12/2007 10:41:17 AM] pD says: but, that does raise significant privacy concerns because it becomes a de-facto tracking machanism.
[7/12/2007 10:42:31 AM] pD subscribes to all the federal reserve publications
[7/12/2007 10:42:45 AM] pD is a dork
[7/12/2007 10:59:10 AM] pD has changed the chat topic to "dork v geek"
[7/12/2007 10:59:22 AM] pD says: so, here is a question that i ponder every so often
[7/12/2007 10:59:35 AM] pD says: what is the difference between a dork vis-a-vis a geek?
[7/12/2007 10:59:53 AM] pD says: equally importantly, who would win when pitted against each otehr
[7/12/2007 12:00:44 PM] pD says: saw two funny bumper stickers today
[7/12/2007 12:01:01 PM] pD says: one says: my kid is a honor student but my president is an idiot
[7/12/2007 12:01:09 PM] pD says: the other is graphic in format
[7/12/2007 12:01:35 PM] pD says: nixon (head shot) - brain (a picture) = bush (head shot)
[7/12/2007 2:02:48 PM] pD says: this is a blantant commercial - becasue they are - from Dailey. Go on their site and you can see some really interesting ad's. Never seen any of them - then, I do not watch TV often: http://www.daileyads.com/
[7/12/2007 4:50:28 PM] pD says: btw, how often does AE get a massage, i am jealous
[7/12/2007 7:52:03 PM] AE says: he gets one about once every 6 weeks.
[7/12/2007 7:52:29 PM] AE says: and the debate I've heard is Geek v Nerd.
[7/12/2007 7:52:58 PM] AE says: It's an East Coast (Nerd's are cool) vs West Coast (Geeks rule) thing.
[7/12/2007 7:53:24 PM] AE says: if you call someone a geek in New York, it's like calling them a nerd or dork on our coast.
[11:19:39 AM] pD says: need to grab lunch
[11:19:46 AM] pD says: wanna walk to ming's, AE?
[11:31:20 AM] AE says: yes!
[11:31:28 AM] AE says: I'll go run and then we'll walk over.
[11:43:11 AM] pD says: i want: Mings Special Hong Kong Pan Fried Noodles
[11:43:47 AM] pD says: btw, i found the msuic at Ming's site, very distrubing: http://www.mings.com/
[11:43:59 AM] pD says: bad music is bad music is bad music
[12:06:57 PM] pD says: I can see how nerds vs geeks would be considered positive traits on the coastal context
[12:07:31 PM] pD says: but, i guess i am more exploring the deragatory side of things. when do you call somebody a dork vs a geek - what isthe difference?
[12:27:43 PM] AE says: on this coast at least, Geek is a positive term.
[12:32:50 PM] AE says: sweet and sour mock pork
[12:33:17 PM] AE says: (650)856-7700
[2:50:57 PM] AE says: But on the east coast Geek is a negative term.
[2:50:59 PM] AE says: Geek vs dork...
[2:51:14 PM] AE says: I think dork is universally a derogatory term.
[2:51:21 PM] AE says: but geeks can be cool, hip.
[2:51:33 PM] pD says: that is fair.
[2:51:35 PM] AE says: http://geekspeak.org, for example. Those guys are way cool!
[2:52:00 PM] pD says: but, let's transport ourselves outside of the silicon valley or any tech centers, how would the two terms play out?
[2:52:35 PM] AE says: my relatives know I'm a geek. In Texas, I was introduced as : "This is my grandson, he's a geek."
[2:52:41 PM] AE says: this was received very well.
[2:52:58 PM] AE says: so it was not a derogatory term, and the people invovled were octogenarians at least.
[2:53:13 PM] pD says: hahah!
[2:53:22 PM] AE says: plus it's entered our common lives as non-derogatory: geeksquad is an example.
[2:53:38 PM] pD says: so, i guess i can only refer to my self as a dork, then
[2:53:47 PM] AE says: Ok... that's a bad example, because people (especially their geek piers) think they suck.
[2:53:55 PM] AE says: why? what are you trying to portray?
[2:54:03 PM] AE says: un-hipness?
[2:54:06 PM] AE says: un-coolness?
[2:54:13 PM] AE says: cluelessness?
[2:55:06 PM] pD says: soemthing like that
[2:55:24 PM] pD says: just like people who get into goth and punk in the initial stage
[2:55:35 PM] pD says: being un-hip is the hip thing
[2:56:18 PM] pD says: similarly, it is like black people calling each otehr nigga' or women refers themselves as bitches
[2:56:39 PM] pD says: i think, as an exercise, it is interesting because it initially adds a shock value,
[2:57:09 PM] pD says: but, as it gets cooped by the main(er) stream, it turns into something edgy/hip and lose much of its punch
[2:57:14 PM] AE says: shock to whom? Most people are too narcasitic to understand something like that.
[2:57:30 PM] AE says: are you trying to find the next edge?
[2:57:32 PM] pD says: imagine that, 5 years from now, "dork" is a good word
[2:57:48 PM] AE says: like geek.
[2:58:13 PM] pD says: oh, as a social phenemonem (i am butchering this word), it is intersting to see the evolution of words
[2:58:14 PM] AE says: when i was in highschool, being a geek or nerd was synonomus with being a dork.
[2:58:39 PM] AE says: and usually resulted in lowered enjoyment of social activities.
[2:58:51 PM] AE says: unless you count swirlies as a social activity.
[2:58:56 PM] pD says: that is a good example, now that the word "geek" has taken on a different set of meaning - esepcailly after the dot com thing
[2:59:14 PM] AE says: yeah. you know why?
[2:59:22 PM] pD says: why
[2:59:25 PM] AE says: beause the geeks were rich!
[2:59:38 PM] AE says: suddenly those geeks from highschool were driving porches
[2:59:43 PM] AE says: porches?
[2:59:48 PM] AE says: can you drive a porch?
[2:59:55 PM] AE says: you know what I mean.
[2:59:58 PM] pD says: not sure if that is a valid test - for example, i would quality both bill gates and warren buffets as more dorky than geeky
[3:00:10 PM] pD says: and they ain't poor
[3:00:14 PM] AE says: yea. and look at how popular they are.
[3:00:19 PM] pD says: porsche
[3:00:24 PM] AE says: pooch?
[3:00:48 PM] AE says: bill gates was hugely unknown in high school, I bet.
[3:01:14 PM] AE says: so I think that very much proves my point.
[3:01:27 PM] AE says: until he became a billionaire he was not much known.
[3:01:40 PM] pD says: NSA Chatters
[3:01:45 PM] pD says: btw, that was a commercial break
[3:01:47 PM] AE says: now there are probably very few people in the world who don't know him.
[3:01:49 PM] AE says: haha.
[3:02:00 PM] pD says: i noted that our google ranking has dropped since we do not refer to our own title often
[3:02:04 PM] AE says: Google that, biatch!
[3:02:21 PM] pD says: i would occasionally drop that in just becasue i am a ranking whore
[3:02:28 PM] AE says: So we need to start mentioning that NSA Chatters is going down in rankings?
[3:02:29 PM] pD says: (rofl)
[3:02:39 PM] pD says: that is a good start
[3:02:54 PM] pD says: speaking of bill gates, i think he was pretty well known in various circles
[3:02:55 PM] AE says: Or that NSA Chatters is going to one day rule the blogging universe?
[3:03:02 PM] AE says: Like where?
[3:03:03 PM] pD says: fame is a relative thing
[3:03:23 PM] pD says: oh, he was the first one to sell a Basic compiler
[3:03:34 PM] pD says: that is how Microsoft got started
[3:03:41 PM] pD says: he also did not shy from being an asshole
[3:03:55 PM] pD says: he was suiting everyone for copying/pirating his compiler
[3:04:01 PM] pD says: that was considered by unhip
[3:04:12 PM] pD says: then, of course, IBM called on him for the OS
[3:04:40 PM] pD says: and, i read somewhere that fairly early in Microsoft's life, there has been a person dedicated to answer all the "fan mails" for bill
[3:04:53 PM] pD says: apparently, he got a tonne of marriage proposals
[3:05:22 PM] AE says: right, but that was after.
[3:05:30 PM] AE says: before he started M$, who was he?
[3:05:36 PM] AE says: some geek.
[3:07:55 PM] pD says: i think we are mixing several discussions here
[3:08:14 PM] pD says: one of the points for discussion is the difference between geek and dork
[3:08:27 PM] AE says: ok. you're a dork. i'm a geek.
[3:08:28 PM] pD says: on this point, i do not believe there is a clear answer beyond the fact that current usage
[3:08:40 PM] AE says: so now it's up to you to define who you are.
[3:08:44 PM] AE says: and i'll do the same.
[3:08:45 PM] pD says: is such that geek has a preferred image
[3:09:05 PM] AE says: it doesn't matter to me. I was a geek long before it was cool.
[3:09:08 PM] pD says: then, there is a discussion on what makes geek a preferred/popular word
[3:09:17 PM] AE says: i played with computers and model rockets in high school.
[3:09:24 PM] AE says: i spent friday nights gaming with other geeks.
[3:09:24 PM] pD says: the concludsion is that if you are rich, people would love you
[3:09:40 PM] AE says: ... i don't know that love is the right word.
[3:09:46 PM] AE says: more... know you? respect you?
[3:09:54 PM] AE says: i don't know if that's accurate either.
[3:10:07 PM] pD says: that is not in dispute and when Bill gates goes from a geek to a uber-rich geek in the eyes of the public is a debate on degree as oppose to definition
[3:11:04 PM] pD says: finally, there is the point of discussion on the usage of a word in the greater social context - words such as bitch, nigga, etc.
[3:11:29 PM] pD says: and, as there is no "answer" on that one as such, my proposal is to call myself as "dork"
[3:11:42 PM] pD says: becasue being a "dork" is the new un-hip
[3:11:48 PM] pD says: which makes you/me hip
[3:12:09 PM] pD says: which is definitely a very sophmoric logic,
[3:12:12 PM] AE says: you calling me a dork?
[3:12:22 PM] pD says: but, it makes me happy
[3:12:26 PM] AE says: LOL
[3:12:27 PM] pD says: i call myself a dork
[3:12:37 PM] pD says: you can call youself whatever you like
[3:12:42 PM] AE says: then it's up to you to define dorkdom.
[3:12:50 PM] pD says: but, i do claim the first dorkhood
[3:13:09 PM] AE says: Ok. We'll refer to you as sir dork.
[3:13:21 PM] AE says: if we had Lindsey on line we could make it official.
[3:13:24 PM] pD says: spellt backward, dork is kord
[3:13:26 PM] AE says: where is she, anyway?
[3:13:43 PM] pD says: kord is like a cord (let's say its a norse spelling)
[3:13:56 PM] pD says: and, what is a cord - it connects you with the mother ship
[3:13:59 PM] AE says: it's an acronym: King Of Real Dorks
[3:14:13 PM] pD says: and, surely, it is like the pope - also known as pontif
[3:14:30 PM] pD says: from the word that means bridge which is who he is - the brdige between men and god
[3:15:02 PM] pD says: so, King of Real Dorks, is nothing but a code for being the connectiion with the omnipotent
[3:15:13 PM] pD says: yeah, where is lindsey?
[3:15:21 PM] pD says: is she on other IM's?
[3:15:35 PM] AE says: congatulations! we'll all be asking you for stuff from above now.
[3:15:37 PM] AE says: nope.
[3:15:43 PM] AE says: Lindsey is MIA.
[3:16:01 PM] AE says: Well... time for me to battle the lords of chaos.
[3:16:12 PM] pD says: no probolem, i am never shy on making up stuff out of thin air
[3:16:22 PM] pD says: have a safe drive home and a good weekend
[3:16:26 PM] AE says: haha. thank you.
[3:16:31 PM] AE says: you have a good weekend as well!
[3:16:37 PM] pD says: ciao
==
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