norse - birthday - mythology - pretzels - outlook - gmail - DOS - open source - mac - marriage - transformer - mings

[7/25/2007 11:52:55 AM] pD says: howdy! howdy!

[7/25/2007 11:53:02 AM] pD says: so, did i miss anything good?

[7/25/2007 12:12:40 PM] nsy says: the water sports yesterday were fun. they covered the new product features, but you can get slides of those.

[7/25/2007 12:13:18 PM] pD says: cool! i should

[7/25/2007 12:13:25 PM] nsy says: i didn’t know you already looked at a Norse myth book, so i brought you another one - you don’t need to read it if your myth curiosity has been satiated.

[7/25/2007 12:13:43 PM] pD says: sorry for missing the festivity - the little boss turned 1 yesterday

[7/25/2007 12:13:47 PM] pD says: oh, yes, thanks for he book

[7/25/2007 12:13:57 PM] pD says: if you have no objection, i would still like to browse it

[7/25/2007 12:13:58 PM] nsy says: happy b-day little boss! woo hoo

[7/25/2007 12:14:10 PM] nsy says: sure - keep it as long as you like

[7/25/2007 12:14:18 PM] pD says: i did read the cliff note version from AE, but, would like to get a bit more into it

[7/25/2007 12:14:30 PM] pD says: i see a lot of similarity to greek and roman mythology

[7/25/2007 12:14:50 PM] pD says: the b-day thing was funny because the little boss inadvertently planted his foot onto the b-day cake

[7/25/2007 12:14:53 PM] nsy says: yes, same premises. like soap operas and novellas, really

[7/25/2007 12:15:09 PM] pD says: i have pix

[7/25/2007 12:15:09 PM] nsy says: ha! that’s classic!

[7/25/2007 12:15:20 PM] pD says: so, i will be in the position to black mail him

[7/25/2007 12:15:22 PM] nsy says: ooh - where/how can i see them?

[7/25/2007 12:15:22 PM] pD says: later on

[7/25/2007 12:15:39 PM] pD says: i need to bring them in

[7/25/2007 12:16:26 PM] nsy says: that would be great. my first b-day my mom made me a cherry vanilla cake from scratch and i wouldn't eat any. i just asked for pretzels

[7/25/2007 12:16:51 PM] nsy says: "prets"

[7/25/2007 12:17:22 PM] nsy says: how are you holding up with the visitors?

[7/25/2007 1:20:42 PM] pD says: oh, we just need to take turn to breath with so many in a confined space

[7/25/2007 1:20:46 PM] pD says: actually, it is going okay

[7/25/2007 1:20:51 PM] pD says: i have given them maps and my car

[7/25/2007 1:21:00 PM] pD says: and, so far, they have not been lost too badly

[7/25/2007 1:21:09 PM] pD has changed the chat topic to "google this"

[7/25/2007 1:21:21 PM] pD says: this is an NSA Chatters conversation, btw

[7/25/2007 1:21:33 PM] pD says: so, i have been a regular user of google - like most people

[7/25/2007 1:21:49 PM] pD says: but, could somebody explain why the attraction with the google mail service thingie?

[7/25/2007 1:21:55 PM] pD says: what is wrong with what we have got today?

[7/25/2007 1:52:43 PM] AE says: you can store up to 10 GB of mail.

[7/25/2007 1:52:57 PM] AE says: you can search it with Google's algorithms

[7/25/2007 1:53:10 PM] AE says: and it's not in Singapore.

[7/25/2007 1:54:31 PM] pD says: so, we are dumping Outlook en mass? I like my outlook...

[7/25/2007 1:54:40 PM] AE says: no, you can still use Outlook

[7/25/2007 1:54:51 PM] pD says: also, how do I backup my email box? i use to just make a copy of my .pst onto a network drive

[7/25/2007 1:54:56 PM] AE says: If you still wish to hold on to outdated technology, that's your issue.

[7/25/2007 1:55:00 PM] AE says: yes

[7/25/2007 1:55:11 PM] AE says: as long as there is room on it.

[7/25/2007 1:55:11 PM] pD is an old fart

[7/25/2007 1:55:22 PM] pD says: so, i can still back up my .pst?

[7/25/2007 1:55:43 PM] AE says: of course. Gmail is now acting as our POP/SMTP server.

[7/25/2007 1:56:03 PM] AE says: so, the functionality in Outlook is unchanged, it's just getting mail from a different server.

[7/25/2007 1:56:15 PM] pD says: that is a good point

[7/25/2007 1:56:17 PM] AE says: and... all the same functionality is offered on the website.

[7/25/2007 1:56:31 PM] AE says: so if you *want* to, you can dump Outlook.

[7/25/2007 1:56:36 PM] AE says: but you don't have to.

[7/25/2007 1:56:52 PM] pD says: i grew up with DOS, 'nuf said

[7/25/2007 1:56:57 PM] pD says: i still like DOS

[7/25/2007 1:57:09 PM] AE says: well, we can find you a copy of Pine if you like...

[7/25/2007 1:57:14 PM] AE says: you'll feel right at home then.

[7/25/2007 1:57:31 PM] pD says: i also liked pine

[7/25/2007 1:57:37 PM] pD says: although it is good to have a GUI

[7/25/2007 1:57:51 PM] AE says: Pine was nice because it NEVER crashed.

[7/25/2007 1:58:00 PM] pD says: i think, in the old days when it is strictly command line, it is helpful to exclude a lot of people

[7/25/2007 1:58:02 PM] AE says: but yeah, functionality wise, it's pretty old.

[7/25/2007 1:58:22 PM] pD says: but, since my mom is on email, i have slowly shifted to GUI...

[7/25/2007 1:58:47 PM] AE says: .Mac?

[7/25/2007 1:58:57 PM] pD says: never have been a mac person

[7/25/2007 1:59:02 PM] pD says: i have nothing against it

[7/25/2007 1:59:03 PM] AE says: ah. yahoo then?

[7/25/2007 1:59:06 PM] pD says: intellectually,

[7/25/2007 1:59:30 PM] pD says: but, of the several times that i tried to use mac, I found the UI very confusing

[7/25/2007 1:59:38 PM] pD says: i think that is a function of my PC-centric world view

[7/25/2007 1:59:46 PM] pD says: but, i did use AppleIIe

[7/25/2007 1:59:46 PM] AE says: yes. it's not what you're used to.

[7/25/2007 1:59:48 PM] pD says: great box

[7/25/2007 1:59:51 PM] AE says: what is that?

[7/25/2007 2:00:03 PM] pD says: i used to run the Basic interpreter to scar people

[7/25/2007 2:00:12 PM] pD says: Apple's old old computer

[7/25/2007 2:00:17 PM] pD says: Apple II e

[7/25/2007 2:00:21 PM] AE says: Oh... got it. hehe.

[7/25/2007 2:00:24 PM] pD says: it was more like PC than the closed system

[7/25/2007 2:00:44 PM] AE says: and now with OS X they've gone full circle.

[7/25/2007 2:01:03 PM] AE says: you can use most open source/Linux apps with little modification.

[7/25/2007 2:01:05 PM] AE says: most

[7/25/2007 2:01:09 PM] pD says: oh, what is with OS X?

[7/25/2007 2:01:09 PM] AE says: not all

[7/25/2007 2:01:21 PM] AE says: it uses a FreeBSD core

[7/25/2007 2:01:40 PM] AE says: they coupled it with some other kernel mods and called it Darwin.

[7/25/2007 2:01:47 PM] AE says: but it's Unix.

[7/25/2007 2:01:54 PM] pD says: cool! I am all for "de facto" standards

[7/25/2007 2:02:18 PM] pD says: i think the attraction of DOS/PC world for me is that it is easy to hack

[7/25/2007 2:02:20 PM] AE says: I wish they would extend standards to those little machines at the checkout counter!

[7/25/2007 2:03:05 PM] AE says: each one is different! Each store has little markers on their machine helping you find the right button to push, and then the cashier still needs to help most people.

[7/25/2007 2:03:57 PM] pD says: actually, in Korea, you just point your cell phone and it pays (deduct from a debit account)

[7/25/2007 2:04:15 PM] pD says: when it comes to retailing electronics, the US is quite behind

[7/25/2007 2:55:28 PM] pD says: so, what were you guys doing this morning when we were having our off site excitement?

[7/25/2007 2:58:58 PM] AE says: working.

[7/25/2007 2:59:34 PM] pD says: you should have come to the off-site then... ;)

[7/25/2007 3:45:15 PM] pD says: wait! AE is celebrating 10 years of marriage

[7/25/2007 3:45:22 PM] pD says: but, i thought his son is around 10 years old

[7/25/2007 3:45:33 PM] pD doing the math in his mind

[7/25/2007 3:45:36 PM] pD says: with great difficulty

[7/25/2007 3:46:09 PM] pD says: hmm...

[7/25/2007 3:46:44 PM] nsy says: actually, 11 years, i think

[7/25/2007 3:46:59 PM] pD says: his kid or marriage?

[7/25/2007 3:47:10 PM] nsy says: marriage

[7/25/2007 3:47:10 PM] pD says: :)!

[7/25/2007 3:47:30 PM] nsy says: yes, the math is close...

[7/25/2007 3:47:38 PM] pD says: darn! could have been a good story...

[7/25/2007 3:48:39 PM] pD says: btw, is AE coming in on Friday?

[7/25/2007 3:57:09 PM] pD says: have you seen the transformer film? i was told that it was pretty entertaining

[7/25/2007 3:57:39 PM] pD says: i am looking for entertainment ideas for my house guests so they do not kill each other

[7/25/2007 3:58:09 PM] pD says: oh, i also saw the film Shooter with Mark Walberg

[7/25/2007 3:58:26 PM] pD says: he is pretty entertaining as an action actor

[7/25/2007 3:58:36 PM] pD says: wasn't he a rapper before or something?

[7/25/2007 5:15:24 PM] nsy says: marky mark and the funky bunch, and i think he might have been a backstreet boy too

[6:13:31 AM] AE says: AE + Kusum = 11 years

[6:13:40 AM] AE says: Quinn = 10 years

[6:13:46 AM] AE says: Megan = 6 years

[6:14:04 AM] AE says: AE will be watching the Transformer's movie on Friday, so will not be coming in.

[9:25:02 AM] pD says: cool! i would like to get a full analysis of the film next week

[9:25:21 AM] pD says: btw, what does Kusum mean? it is a cool name

[2:04:58 PM] pD says: guess where i just went to lunch

[2:05:44 PM] AE says: Oh! I love guessing games!

[2:05:49 PM] AE says: Um... Mars?

[2:05:59 PM] AE says: no wait.... uh....

[2:05:59 PM] AE says: Mars?

[2:06:04 PM] pD says: wrong direction

[2:06:07 PM] pD says: but, the right idea

[2:06:16 PM] pD says: one syllable destination

[2:06:22 PM] AE says: Oh... Moon?

[2:06:38 PM] pD says: good guess, even if not right

[2:06:41 PM] pD says: keep going

[2:06:54 PM] AE says: Sun? (I hear their food is really spicy!)

[2:07:05 PM] AE says: Earth?

[2:07:17 PM] AE says: Mings?

[2:07:27 PM] pD says: gotta get to the Mars and Moon path

[2:07:30 PM] pD says: think M

[2:07:36 PM] pD says: yes, Ming's

[2:08:04 PM] AE says: Wow! I'd love to try their food sometime!

[2:08:10 PM] AE says: what did you have?

[2:08:49 PM] pD says: dim sum, you know the usual

[2:09:00 PM] pD says: i was trying to get people to order dishes at la cart

[2:09:07 PM] pD says: but, dim sum was the preferred method

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pearl - perl - curmudgeon - think - Han Solo - birthday - truck driver - veggie dip

[12:20:22 PM] pD says: who is pearl?

[12:20:35 PM] AE says: programming language.

[12:20:58 PM] pD says: did not know that a programming language comes with a little girl's voice these days

[12:21:03 PM] pD says: kind of disturbing

[12:21:06 PM] AE says: weird. isn't it.

[12:21:06 PM] nsy says: things in tea?

[12:21:16 PM] AE says: also in oysters.

[12:21:30 PM] AE says: oyster tea programming language.

[12:21:32 PM] pD says: wait! that is perl

[12:21:38 PM] AE says: oh... you're correct.

[12:21:47 PM] AE says: it's a skit with Will Ferrel.

[12:21:54 PM] pD says: oyster tea... kind of crunchy?

[12:22:09 PM] AE says: personally, it's a little too juvenile for me.

[12:22:16 PM] AE says: but some people seem to really like it.

[12:22:41 PM] pD says: sorry, i am lost. what are we referring to now?

[12:23:00 PM] AE says: they're watching a skit with Will Ferrel and Pearl.

[12:23:11 PM] AE says: Pearl is... Will's daughter?

[12:23:18 PM] pD says: if you say so

[12:23:19 PM] AE says: Friends daughter?

[12:23:26 PM] AE says: something like that.

[12:23:43 PM] pD says: btw, who will man the store when everyone is in the off-site?

[12:23:48 PM] pD says: just wondering

[12:24:08 PM] AE says: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/74

[12:24:22 PM] AE says: us support folks will still have our phones going.

[12:24:38 PM] pD says: calling each other to get out of meetings

[12:24:43 PM] pD says: that is a good idea

[12:24:57 PM] AE says: heh. hadn't thought of that!

[12:25:08 PM] AE says: I'm actually looking forward to meeting everyone.

[12:26:59 PM] pD is a curmudgeon

[12:27:09 PM] pD says: so, i have seen the video with will and pearl

[12:27:30 PM] pD says: it is amusing, but what is the big fuzz about?

[12:27:40 PM] pD says: what am i missing?

[12:27:52 PM] AE says: i don't know. nothing as far as I know.

[12:28:02 PM] AE says: M was sharing it with S.

[12:28:16 PM] AE says: that brought it to the current reality.

[12:29:30 PM] pD says: the following is for google bot's

[12:29:34 PM] pD says: nsa chatters

[12:29:41 PM] pD says: end message

[12:29:55 PM] AE says: you have to be more creative about working the phrase nsa chatters into conversation.

[12:30:01 PM] AE says: it's a little abrupt!

[12:30:07 PM] nsy says: what is nsa chatters?

[12:30:21 PM] AE says: blah blah blah... btw NSA CHATTERS... it's a bit jaring really.

[12:30:39 PM] pD says: well, think of it as a comercial break

[12:30:54 PM] pD says: i suppose we can come up with a tag line

[12:30:59 PM] pD says: but, that requires thinking

[12:31:04 PM] pD says: thinking is hard

[12:31:11 PM] AE says: oh.. well forget that then.

[12:31:29 PM] AE says: we get paid to think... and as far as i know no one's paid us anything for this!

[12:31:45 PM] pD says: my point precisely

[12:31:53 PM] pD says: thinking is for wimps

[12:32:08 PM] pD says: young men - just type away

[12:32:23 PM] AE says: I totally agree!

[12:32:25 PM] pD says: btw, we went up to SF on Saturday

[12:32:48 PM] AE says: I'm a big fan of the Han Solo school of "irrational action before thought"!

[12:32:58 PM] AE says: how was SF?

[12:33:19 PM] pD says: we figured that it would be "eaiser" to take the family to a place that we know fairly well

[12:33:40 PM] pD says: my whole family is coming to visit to celebrate the little boss' one year birthday

[12:34:02 PM] AE says: when is that?

[12:34:09 PM] pD says: did han solo actually said that - "irrational action before thought"? i do nto recall

[12:37:08 PM] AE says: no. he did not need to say it: he simply did it!

[12:40:27 PM] pD says: actually, i thought he was quite cynical - recall that he did not want to get involved with the rescue until the reward was mentioined

[12:40:56 PM] pD says: it is true that he charged the storm troopers solo in the rescue, but that is not irrational as such - it worked to some extent

[12:43:30 PM] AE says: but it was not thought out

[1:23:47 PM] pD says: love how nsy puts S in his place...

[1:23:57 PM] pD says: nsy rocks!

[1:24:09 PM] pD is looking for his pirate pom-poms

[1:29:59 PM] pD says: btw, the his laptop fixed?

[1:30:47 PM] nsy says: not that i know of

[1:45:11 PM] pD says: i was going to find a han solo clip on youtube

[1:45:14 PM] pD says: not seeing anything

[1:45:28 PM] pD says: i wonder if george lucas has been culling those as well, that would be fitting of his style

[1:45:34 PM] pD says: Lucas the litigator

[1:46:56 PM] pD says: http://www.film.com/movies/story/georgelucaswantsyou/14895159

[1:49:46 PM] pD says: i have always wondered what it would be like to be a truck driver

[1:49:57 PM] pD says: could be an enjoyabel life

[1:50:10 PM] pD says: anotehr alternative was to be a postal delivery guy in the rural area

[1:50:21 PM] pD says: but, i don't like dealing with dogs

[4:51:19 PM] pD says: that was not too painful

[4:54:36 PM] AE says: and we got free food.

[4:55:08 PM] pD says: not to take anything aways from fruits since i am a personal fan

[4:55:13 PM] pD says: but, that ain't no food

[4:55:23 PM] AE says: i was thinking of the veggies and dip.

[4:55:36 PM] AE says: if you just drink the dip straight... it's quite filling.

[4:55:44 PM] pD says: ah! i did not have those. so, in the pD-centric wrold, that does not count

[4:56:01 PM] pD says: i would pay to see you drink the dip straight

[4:56:14 PM] AE says: how much?

[4:56:23 PM] pD says: how much would you drink?

[4:56:29 PM] AE says: (we've now established what kind of person I am)

[4:56:41 PM] AE says: depends on if the money would cover the hospital bills.

[4:56:54 PM] AE says: then amount is not in question.

[4:57:19 PM] pD says: probably not enough - but you should do it for pride, country, family, and the knowledge of how much dip you can consume

[4:57:46 PM] pD says: i say that in and of itself, as a self-discovery journey, is well worth the efforts

[4:57:57 PM] pD is once again looking for his pirate pompoms

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