weekends - dogs - mind control - saviors - gods - infidels - ignorance - happiness - knowledge - couture house

[11:18:55 AM] pD says: did anything exciting this weekend?

[11:19:02 AM] pD says: we originally had a few social events planned

[11:19:15 AM] pD says: but, with a sick baby, we were persona non-grata

[11:19:26 AM] pD says: (understandably)

[11:19:45 AM] pD says: so, we caught up on house chores...

[11:19:52 AM] AE says: woo hoo! Laundry!

[11:20:10 AM] AE says: We went bed shopping for our daughter, and I ran really far on Sunday.

[11:20:27 AM] AE says: and captured our escaped doggy and repaired the dog fence.

[11:20:38 AM] AE says: she's got a pair of wire cutters hidden some where, I'm sure of it!

[11:21:00 AM] pD says: 'em dogs are smart

[11:21:15 AM] AE says: smarter than me when it comes to fence design.

[11:21:35 AM] AE says: it's certainly a game we're playing... .good thing we're both enjoying it!

[11:21:37 AM] pD says: oh, i also made a simple but nice lunch for sunday - sat in the yard and enjoyed 30 minutes of serenity

[11:22:03 AM] AE says: rare for a parent of a young child. make sure you treat the Mrs. to the same now and again.

[11:22:57 AM] pD says: yeah, it is hard, but we do try.

[11:23:39 AM] pD says: a good friend has an (empty) apartment in Paris, we have been talking about visiting. but, logistically, it is extremely hard. but, it is good to have aspirations

[12:11:37 PM] pD says: noticed that nsy has a Beatles album

[12:11:57 PM] pD says: glad to know that there are fellow LP users here

[2:13:15 PM] AE says: Now here's an interesting read:http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59986/pg1

[2:13:19 PM] AE says: I had no idea!

[2:13:36 PM] AE says: So, this happened like 3 years ago, so we're probably all mind controlled by now.

[2:14:05 PM] nsy says: There are steps you can take to accelerate the growth of your DNA strands. If you have not already done so, work towards strengthening your personal relationship with God, or your "Higher Power."

[2:14:26 PM] AE says: I'm all over that!

[2:14:37 PM] AE says: Got my Reverend card in my wallet!

[2:14:49 PM] nsy says: save us!

[2:14:58 PM] AE says: Nope. Doesn't work that way.

[2:15:05 PM] AE says: Jesus can't save you, neither can I.

[2:15:12 PM] AE says: Guess who can?

[2:16:39 PM] nsy says: http://www.thesaviours.com/

[2:17:43 PM] AE says: nope. guess again.

[2:18:10 PM] pD is volunteering himself - albeit raising his hand gingerly

[2:18:26 PM] AE says: yes! You, the intelligent looking one with the glasses.

[2:18:41 PM] nsy says: and the finger in the nose

[2:18:50 PM] pD says: what?! what did i do this time?

[2:19:00 PM] AE says: volunteered.

[2:19:11 PM] AE says: you're now our savior.

[2:19:17 PM] AE says: congrats. you get a robe

[2:19:35 PM] AE says: most of the stains will wash out. the blood will come out with some lemon juice.

[2:20:09 PM] pD says: no worries, blood red will be the new black

[2:20:34 PM] AE says: True.

[2:20:53 PM] pD says: the key question of the day then, is should i be the god of old testament or the new?

[2:21:02 PM] pD says: compassion is so yesterday, you know

[2:21:08 PM] AE says: neo testament.

[2:21:18 PM] AE says: we're writing a new chapter.

[2:21:24 PM] pD says: that would be the mormons

[2:21:31 PM] AE says: bout time there was a sequel to that book.

[2:21:45 PM] AE says: The worst thing about that page is there are some things that make good sense sprinkled in.

[2:21:50 PM] AE says: "As long as we are kept busy and economically enslaved, the majority of humanity will not take notice of what¹s really important."

[2:21:59 PM] AE says: that strikes me as very true.

[2:22:36 PM] AE says: Of course, not in the way their describing, but in the way that is subtly more insidious; human nature.

[2:23:18 PM] pD says: i am not proud, i believe that human is just an animal and actually most animals are more humane than human

[2:23:50 PM] pD says: but, my point is, i have no issue if there is a way to distract human mind - that is how "better" beings can come to dominate

[2:24:01 PM] pD busily popping his soma

[2:24:14 PM] pD says: (and trying to play the chosen one)

[2:24:22 PM] AE says: sorry, what? I wasn't listening...

[2:24:38 PM] AE says: "Learn to heal your past. Holding grudges and resentment against others will only serve to limit your higher development."

[2:24:55 PM] AE says: another line that is totally with my beliefs.

[2:25:01 PM] AE says: perhaps these people are on to something...

[2:25:27 PM] pD says: don't forget to give your tenth to your savior

[2:25:33 PM] AE says: of course they loose me with things like this: The human DNA has a 12 strand potential. Most humans only have strands 1, 2 and 3 fully activated, and strand 4 partially assembled but not yet activated. In order to make yourself "invisible" to the coming bio-neurological invasion, you must have a minimum of 4 strands fully activated, and strand 5 at least half assembled. This will require a certain level of interpersonal development and acceleration on your part.

[2:25:35 PM] pD says: it keeps you in his good grace

[2:26:07 PM] AE says: we give our 10%, but we use other charity organizations that affect the planet as large as possible.

[2:26:28 PM] pD says: infidels!

[2:26:42 PM] AE says: *Blatant Commercial* We find Plan International is the best way to go. /Blatant Commercial>

[2:27:18 PM] pD says: blatant annoyance - NSA Chatters

[2:27:22 PM] nsy says: ha. the truth comes out.

[2:27:23 PM] AE says: they go into some impoverished, devastated area, and make things happen: clean wells, schools, infrastructure, education, farming techniques...

[2:27:38 PM] pD says: NSA Chatters or infidels?

[2:27:40 PM] AE says: which truth? There is no truth on NSA Chatters!

[2:27:43 PM] pD says: be fearful!

[2:28:00 PM] pD says: the day there is truth is probably going to be the end of the world as we know it

[2:28:16 PM] nsy says: either of you read "the celestine prophecy"?

[2:28:20 PM] AE says: gulp. I'll be careful what I post here.

[2:28:21 PM] AE says: nope.

[2:28:36 PM] nsy says: similar stuff. was very popular- big seller

[2:29:24 PM] nsy says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Celestine_Prophecy

[2:31:32 PM] AE says: Wow, written a while back.

[2:41:40 PM] nsy says: and inspired by a book from the 60's

[2:42:02 PM] nsy says: he sold 100000 copied out of the trunk of his honda before getting published

[2:42:33 PM] nsy says: another interesting read is "the late great planet earth"

[2:42:39 PM] pD says: you know what is the malaise of our age: not enough high quality drugs

[2:43:14 PM] nsy says: unless you have a prescription

[2:43:40 PM] nsy says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late,_Great_Planet_Earth

[2:45:00 PM] pD says: you know a world akin to Matrix is not that bad, if you think about it - you do not have to do jack and just dream away - how sweet is that!

[2:45:52 PM] nsy says: http://www.arrod.co.uk/essays/matrix.php

[2:46:17 PM] nsy says: ignorance is bliss

[2:46:34 PM] nsy says: okay, not really

[2:47:09 PM] pD says: well, actually, i think the original idea of matrix was based on the philosophical question of what is reality.

[2:47:43 PM] pD says: the original question was "how do we tell that we are living a real life vs just being imagined by a really big brain" - i am paraphrasing of course

[2:48:04 PM] pD is donning his contrarian sombrero

[2:48:14 PM] nsy says: i love your hat!

[2:48:19 PM] pD says: ignorance IS bliss

[2:48:32 PM] nsy says: do you know any ignorant people?

[2:48:47 PM] nsy says: are they happy?

[2:48:49 PM] pD says: well, it depends on your definition

[2:49:07 PM] pD says: but, of the "conventional" ignoramus, they tend to be much happier

[2:49:31 PM] nsy says: where's my "get out of semantics free" card?

[2:49:39 PM] nsy says: yes, for the most part i suppose thats true

[2:49:47 PM] pD says: in psychology, happiness is often derived from a relative comparison

[2:50:00 PM] pD says: so, if you are ignorant enough not to compare, you've got it made

[2:50:40 PM] nsy says: but if something doesn't work out for me, i learn from it so i can go on to make bigger, better mistakes. ignorami just do the same things over and over, and can't figure out why it doesn’t work. that seems like a frustrating, confusing existence

[2:50:40 PM] pD says: recall the old story about Pandora’s box? one of the things that escaped was "knowledge"

[2:51:04 PM] nsy says: true

[2:51:12 PM] nsy says: damn greeks

[2:51:22 PM] pD says: and, the evil doer (i am just noting the fact) Eve induced Adam to bite on that apple thingie

[2:51:25 PM] nsy says: and their philosophy

[2:52:00 PM] nsy says: he was just looking for an excuse to bite it

[2:52:27 PM] nsy says: and so was she. they conspired.

[2:54:19 PM] nsy says: so, why do the ignorant seek knowledge then? why was pandora's box opened? why eat the apple?

[2:54:37 PM] pD says: and, of all things, they found that they were fearful of being naked - which goes to prove that they ain't too smart. that would have been the perfect market for selling clothing - you know the first couture house!

[2:54:56 PM] AE says: I think true ignorance is not knowing (or admitting) that you're ignorant.

[2:55:08 PM] pD is trying to demonstrate why he is the chosen one

[2:55:16 PM] AE says: once you admit you're ignorant, it's nothing but work.

[2:55:41 PM] pD says: that goes to show why the little boss is so happy!

[2:55:59 PM] pD says: this reminds me of an old chinese creation myth

[2:56:38 PM] pD says: in the very beginning, there was houn-tung (roughly translates as "uncertainty/confusion/unkonw/ignorance")

[2:57:07 PM] AE says: (darkness)

[2:57:11 PM] pD says: then, the motherly god came and took pity on him. she drilled holes in him to help him see/hear, etc.

[2:57:26 PM] pD says: and, houn-tung died immediately

[2:57:27 PM] AE says: (let there be light)

[2:57:30 PM] AE says: doh!

[2:57:36 PM] pD says: and, his death created the world as we know it

[2:57:51 PM] pD says: well, something like that, i am sure that i am massively bastardizing the story

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NSA Chatters crew

hot fuzz- trekkie- favorite movies- birth of a nation - buster keaton

[10:31:42 AM] pD says: special thanks to AE for recommending Hot Fuzz

[10:31:57 AM] pD says: just saw it last night and for senseless and cheeky violence, this is great!

[10:33:59 AM] nsy says: I watched the first and second season of the tv series intermittently - hilarious stuff.

[10:34:29 AM] pD says: i must say that brits have a really weird sense of humor and more often than not, i enjoy it

[10:34:31 AM] AE says: there's a series?

[10:34:37 AM] pD says: something about not taking life too serious

[10:34:39 AM] AE says: I've only seen the movie.

[10:34:48 AM] pD says: is there a TV series? that is cool!

[10:34:52 AM] AE says: And you have to see their zombie flick too, Sean of the Dead

[10:35:13 AM] pD says: that is on my list too

[10:35:28 AM] pD says: my problem is that the list keeps expanding although i watch a lot of films

[10:35:34 AM] nsy says: sorry for the false alarm, i was thinking of reno 911

[10:35:50 AM] AE says: ah. never seen that. is it good?

[10:36:00 AM] nsy says: sean of the dead is definitely in my favorites - i forgot to add that one!

[10:38:23 AM] nsy says: the improv is great in some of the reno 911 stuff, but its not in my favorites

[11:04:23 AM] AE says: I've got my super cool running shirt on today:

[11:04:28 AM] AE sent file shirt.jpg to members of this chat

[11:04:42 AM] AE says: So off I go, Mr. Trekie

[11:08:25 AM] nsy says: we talked yesterday about making trekie shirts with the company logo ;)

[11:08:34 AM] nsy says: oops - no names, sorry!

[11:09:47 AM] nsy says: run, trekkie, run!

[11:35:54 AM] pD says: this is from nsy:

[11:35:55 AM] pD says: Favorite Movies, huh? Ok, that's tough, but I'll give it a shot... and this is without looking at my collection, which I'm sure would remind me of ones I've forgotten.



The Crow

The Lost Boys

Blade Runner

The Fisher King

The Princess Bride

Legend

The Holy Grail

Lord of The Rings trilogy

Lady Hawke (damn that horrid score, though)

Leon, The Professional



... agh! can't stop myself...



Raising Arizona

True Romance

Edward Scissorhands

Clerks

The Princess and the Warrior

Ghost Dog

What Dreams May Come

The Breakfast Club

The Adventures of Baron Von Munchausen

Office Space

Goonies

Kung Fu Hustle

Hackers

American Beauty

Wild At Heart

Fright Night

Grosse Pointe Blank

Super Troopers



... still can't stop...



one crazy summer

Sleeping Tiger, Hidden Dragon

Dogma

The big blue

Subway

Sin City

Delicatessen

Dark City

near dark

the devil's rejects

vampire hunter d bloodlust

dead poets society

the evil dead

ginger snaps

the dangerous lives of alter boys

the man who fell to earth

the usual suspects

even cowgirls get the blues

snatch

clockwatchers

Untamed Heart







Beloved Directors...



Anything by Luc Besson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Besson (Leon, The Big Blue, Subway)

Anything by Federico Fellini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellini (La Dolce Vida, La Strada, 8 1/2)

Akira Kurosawa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_kurosawa (Seven Samurai, Rashomon, Ikiru)

Anything by Jim Jarmusch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jarmusch (Ghost Dog, Dead Man, Mystery Train, Down By Law, Stranger Than Paradise)

Anything by Terry Gilliam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gilliam (The Holy Grail, The Fisher King, Brazil, Baron Von Munchausen, Time Bandits, Twelve Monkeys, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas)

Ridley Scott http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott Blade Runner, Legend, Alien)

Tim Burton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton (Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, Sleepy Hollow, Big Fish, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Corpse bride)

John Hughes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hughes_%28film_director%29 (Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles, Pretty in Pink, Weird Science, Ferris Bueller's day off, Uncle Buck)

Tom Tykwer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tykwer (The Princess and the Warrior, Run Lola Run, Heaven)

Coen Brothers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coen_brothers (Raising Arizona, Hudsucker Proxy, The Big Lebowski, O Brother Where art Thou?, Fargo)

Quentin Tarantino http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Tarantino (Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, Death Proof, True Romance (writer), Sin City (Guest Director))

Kevin Smith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_smith (Clerks, Dogma, Mall Rats, Chasing Amy)

Jean-Pierre Jeunet (Delicatessen, Amile, The City of lost Children)







Responses to your list:





1. Life is Beautiful

- Netflix didn't have it last I checked - still need to see it.



2. Train of Life

- Netflix didn't have it last I checked - still need to see it.



3. Brazil

- Oh, beloved Gilliam! He can do no wrong (although I haven't seen tidelands).



4. Aliens

- I like James Cameron's work (seen "The Abyss"?). I need to see this one again.



5. The Milagro Bean field War

Great movie - I saw it in English class of all places. Need to watch it again.



6. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen

- own it! Love it!



7. The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai

- keep trying to own it, but not finding it in convenient places. can I borrow it?



8. 20,000 Leagues under the Sea

- never seen it! must watch this one... haven't read the book, either - such a sinner!



9. Leon

- in my top 10, own it.



10. Blade Runner

- in my top 10, own it.





I better send this before I remember more movies I love...

-nsy

[2:36:48 PM] pD says: i am surprised that Hitchcock, John Ford, Billy Wilder and the likes did not make into the lists

[2:37:02 PM] pD says: their work inspired many of the people mentioned above.

[2:38:57 PM] AE says: well, we're not exactly a 'Citizen Kane' crowd...

[2:39:34 PM] pD says: never quite got Citizen Kane

[2:39:42 PM] pD says: but, some of the works are pretty time-less

[2:40:14 PM] pD says: for example "some like it hot" - although it is black and white, it was the first instance where a gay-ish personality was a main character

[2:40:56 PM] pD says: going even further back, Griffin's "birth of a nation" was absolutely amazing - politically incorrect, but the level of sophistication on many levels are quite mind blowing

[2:41:17 PM] pD says: then, there are the Chaplin series, Buster Keating series

[2:42:06 PM] pD says: this is why i cannot come up with a list, each list would predicate on a prior list and very quickly, it becomes a chronology

[2:42:34 PM] AE says: Buster Keaton rocks!

[2:42:41 PM] pD says: my point!

[2:42:57 PM] AE says: Jackie Chan reminds me a lot of him. Doing all his own stunts with a very smart physical comedy

[2:43:24 PM] AE says: pD, you need to learn to let go of things.

[2:43:55 PM] AE says: For further reading on our hero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buster_Keaton

[2:44:37 PM] pD says: yet, but i am ready to be a Buddhist yet

[2:44:54 PM] AE says: good! That's the spirit!

[2:45:10 PM] pD says: not letting go? :)!

[2:45:41 PM] AE says: no, saying you're ready to be a Buddhist.

[3:38:48 PM] pD says: hahah! I meant to say i am NOT ready yet

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NSA Chatters

kids - electronic music - virtuosity - jazz - john coltrane - miles davis - herbie hancock - sonny rollin - max roach - dave brubeck - kind of blue -

[8/7/2007 9:26:37 AM] pD says: working from home

[8/7/2007 9:26:42 AM] pD says: little boss has a fever

[8/7/2007 9:29:35 AM] nsy says: aww! poor little guy. Well, you'll be missed here, but at least you are here "virtually". Hope the little guy feels better soon!

[8/7/2007 10:13:38 AM] pD says: i hope so too, so his folks can get some sleep...

[8/7/2007 10:35:26 AM] AE says: yeah! that means teeth!

[8/7/2007 10:36:18 AM] pD says: AE is speaking from experience

[8/7/2007 10:36:23 AM] pD says: and he is correct,

[8/7/2007 10:36:25 AM] pD says: mostly

[8/7/2007 10:36:36 AM] pD says: as it turns out, he also has a running nose

[8/7/2007 10:36:38 AM] AE says: teething must really suck when you're little.

[8/7/2007 10:36:57 AM] AE says: yes, it wipes out the immune system and it's like they have a bad cold.

[8/7/2007 10:37:12 AM] pD says: so, this is a double whammy situation where he is suffering from the teeth (two molars at the same time, yikes) and some kind of viral thing

[8/7/2007 10:37:42 AM] pD says: anyway, i have a doc appointment later for him

[8/7/2007 10:43:23 AM] AE says: yuck. sorry to hear that!

[8/7/2007 10:44:12 AM] pD says: shit happens, this is part of the grand bargain in life.

[8/7/2007 10:44:27 AM] pD says: he is still a good kid

[8/7/2007 10:44:44 AM] pD is stating the obvious being a highly biased party

[8/7/2007 11:57:04 AM] AE says: http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/brainshrub/wheres-the-baby.jpg

[8/7/2007 11:57:08 AM] AE says: speaking of kids...

[8/7/2007 1:14:07 PM] pD says: just got back from the doc, do not know what bug he has. probably a viral thing. he is still under observation - poor thing

[8/7/2007 1:14:11 PM] pD says: i am going to grab a bite now

[8/8/2007 6:50:40 AM] AE says: Here's what I want for Christmas: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/faster-faster/video-of-rollerman-racing-against-600cc-sportbike-spoiler-he-wins-287158.php?autoplay=true

[8/8/2007 11:51:52 AM] AE says: http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=20501

[8/8/2007 10:22:15 PM] pD says: with a sick kid, i am not bored... just catching up on work after a day of unhappy kid...

[9:30:39 AM] pD says: howdy... It has been a long two days

[9:31:12 AM] pD says: no complaints on taking care of a sick/fussy kid (that is part of the grand bargain), but it sure takes a toll on your body...

[9:31:23 AM] pD says: so, have i missed anything good?

[9:35:30 AM] AE says: ah... the sweet disease of parenthood...

[9:36:08 AM] AE says: well, there was the new toy on my christmas list: http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=20501

[9:36:25 AM] AE says: and the cartoon: http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/brainshrub/wheres-the-baby.jpg

[9:42:57 AM] pD says:

Rollerman Guy has made suit with rollerblade wheels all over it.

[9:43:22 AM] pD says: hahah! AE, this is a good illustration of why you run and i sit on my butt

[9:43:40 AM] pD says: that looks like a lot of work rolling on roads

[10:01:53 AM] AE says: oh but I be that view is awesome!

[10:04:18 AM] AE says: and here: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/reactable/reactable-synth-makes-touchy+feely-music-for-your-eyes-287729.php

[10:04:23 AM] AE says: you know... for kids.

[10:43:24 AM] AE says: Check this out!

[10:43:25 AM] AE says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc&mode=related&search=

[10:43:38 AM] AE says: WoW! I Totally think this company NEEDS one of these!

[10:43:51 AM] AE says: Tags:

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[10:43:59 AM] AE says: hah... whoops.

[10:44:09 AM] AE says:

[10:44:45 AM] AE says: IMHO, easily the coolest thing we've had up on NSA Chatters!

[11:17:43 AM] pD says: no company name pls

[11:17:51 AM] pD is a killjoy

[11:18:58 AM] pD says: it is pretty neat, but how long would it last? Not a huge fan of electronic music

[11:20:10 AM] AE says: no, but since it's a synthesizer you can give it any voice you want.

[11:20:33 AM] AE says: so you could mimic classical instruments (though that's not really the proper medium for this)

[11:20:53 AM] pD says: this is purely an opinion, i know - but, i can usually tell when a sound is synthesized or by conventional instruments

[11:21:11 AM] pD says: and, i agree with you that

[11:21:11 AM] AE says: True. but that doesn't mean it's not able to make good music.

[11:21:28 AM] AE says: though... actually I haven't really heard anything produced on it that I would actually enjoy listening too.

[11:21:30 AM] pD says: the point is not to mimic what has come before, but explore what is possible

[11:21:46 AM] AE says: it's more the technology, and the ability to dynamically control the music with such a cool interface!

[11:21:51 AM] AE says: exactly

[11:23:15 AM] pD says: well, i am old fashion in believing in virtuosity - nothing wrong with providing an easy ramp for the less talented (like me), but i have not seen/heard anything that would blow me away in the realm of electronic music

[11:24:00 AM] pD says: and, i do not know if it is a limitation on the instrument or somehow we (collectively) have not yet figure out how we define that music form

[11:24:03 AM] AE says: Odd. I feel the same about jazz, though I know I'm in the minority.

[11:24:25 AM] AE says: There is some electronic music that totally blows me away.

[11:24:28 AM] pD says: actually, most jazz performance is pretty crappy

[11:24:37 AM] AE says: haha. So it's not just me then.

[11:25:02 AM] pD says: people want to improvise on jazz, because all the greats can do it

[11:25:13 AM] AE says: but not everyone can do it great.

[11:25:23 AM] pD says: but, what people often do not realize is how much effort it takes to improvise in the first place

[11:25:37 AM] pD says: also, once you get to that level, how much more work is involved in not repeating yourself

[11:26:03 AM] pD says: because, it is very easy to find a set of crutches that you can always fall back on when you are in a jam - during improv

[11:26:32 AM] pD says: so, for example, john coltrane was known as practicing every waking hour - either writing or trying out new notes on his instrument

[11:26:54 AM] pD says: and, sure enough, he is one of the most influential because he keeps breaking new grounds

[11:27:45 AM] pD says: on the other hand, this does not meant lesser souls than Coltrane cannot do jazz - just different style and in much smaller dosages

[11:28:27 AM] pD says: just like eating, you should not have 3 start meals everyday. a snack stall on the street can provide inspiration.

[11:28:29 AM] pD says: sometimes

[11:33:20 AM] AE says: Ok. I'll have to find some Coltrane and check him out.

[11:33:31 AM] AE says: Perhaps I just haven't heard good jazz before.

[11:33:37 AM] AE says: only elevator and Muzak.

[11:33:39 AM] AE says: yuck.

[11:33:51 AM] pD says: muzak sucks! it ruins even the best music

[11:34:08 AM] AE says: you should check out a group called "Lounge against the Machine"

[11:34:33 AM] AE says: they take heavy metal, industrial, and Rage Against the machine kind of music and "loungify" it.

[11:34:45 AM] pD says: well, i would suggest you start with Blue Trane and My Favorite Things. These are two of the major works from his earlier period - tends to be a bit more listener friendly

[11:35:41 AM] pD says: Miles Davis is also another major figure - and i think the fact that he went to Julliard (the music school, but he dropped out) helped him a great deal in providing a much larger canvass in his music making

[11:36:16 AM] pD says: he actually ventured into electronic music in the 70's. Not a critical success, but he gave that genre a great deal of credibility as a result

[11:38:10 AM] pD says: speaking of electronic music-ish in the jazz format, you might also want to check out Herbie Hancock's HeadHunter - it is the first major work on Funk with a jazz context - it sort of borders on groovy musak because the texture sounds very similar unless you pay attention. but, its internal structure was quite complex - a fun academic piece for dorks like me

[11:40:21 AM] pD says: you may also enjoy max roach and Sonny Rollin’s Saxophone Colossus - this was the first major hard-bob jazz. amongst other things, max roach's use of drum as a performance instrument instead of just beat keeper was a major break through and, if you listen closely, the kind of texture he can get out of his set is nothing short of amazing

[11:41:22 AM] pD says: finally, dave brubeck's take five and the rest of the recording on that album is a major work from the "west coast" jazz. it comes from a completely different tradition and is quite enjoyable

[11:42:03 AM] pD says: well, this is a very partial list of several major genres that may be worth checking out. hopefully, you will find at least one that sings to you

[11:42:58 AM] AE says: Cool! Thanks for the recommendations.

[11:44:10 AM] pD says: oops, for miles davis, Kind of Blue (the first/wrong recording) and Sketches of Spain would give you a good flavor

[11:45:03 AM] pD says: Interestingly, Sketches of Spain is not on my favorite recording list for Davis - but I think it is a function of my classical training (which involves a lot of spanish work) interfering

[11:45:34 AM] pD says: Kind of Blue is probably the most famous jazz work of all time - highly enjoyable. it does have an interesting history

[11:46:35 AM] pD says: basically, the original release was done on the wrong speed - it was faster, so both the tempo and pitch are higher than the actual recording. So, for the longest time, practitioners who are looking to play the piece always have problem re-producing the sound from the sheet music vis-à-vis the recording

[11:47:13 AM] pD says: a few years back, somebody found the original recording tapes. And, long story short, figured out what happened. so, there are now two release, the "wrong" and the "corrected"

[11:47:59 AM] pD says: the corrected version definitely makes a lot more sense musically because the change in style for Miles davis was not as drastic - there is a clearly a sense of continuity

[11:49:33 AM] pD says: on the other hand, i would argue (and what do i know) that the "wrong" version was so much more fresh and earth shattering, that it is the "right" version. the impressionistic style that keeps a sense of urgency without sounding hurried - that was the reason why that recording was such a Wow!

[11:49:42 AM] pD says: and, naturally, I have both recording...

[11:49:59 AM] pD will stop yakking about jazz for now

[11:51:28 AM] AE says: No. Thank you for sharing your background knowledge. It helps to know this stuff to appreciate the music.

[11:51:40 AM] AE says: brb. we're heading out of the shedquarters and up to the house.

[12:26:12 PM] AE says: pD, question: do we have samples of branded product?

[12:32:20 PM] nsy says: i sent a new mail with the samples :)

[12:32:38 PM] AE says: saw that. You're always on top of things nsy!

[12:33:21 PM] nsy says: hey pD, have you heard the charlie hunter trio, or the bad plus?

[12:33:46 PM] nsy says: http://www.charliehunter.com/

[12:34:14 PM] nsy says: charlie plays guitar and bass at the same time on a custom instrument - so cool!

[12:35:00 PM] nsy says: the bad plus is great nerd jazz http://www.thebadplus.com/

[12:45:05 PM] nsy says: i love Wes Montgomery's "So much Guitar!" - good one too

[12:48:52 PM] nsy says: i also forgot how great and terrible the movie "six string samurai" could be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-String_Samurai

[12:56:53 PM] pD says: is this the one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqrd6buFHE

[12:56:57 PM] pD says: cool!

[12:57:03 PM] pD says:

[12:57:19 PM] nsy says: hahaha - yep - thats it!

[12:58:27 PM] nsy says: it's reminiscent of the guitar battle from the movie crossroads

[1:19:22 PM] pD says: looks so non-sensical. love it. i am putting it on my list

[1:20:57 PM] nsy says: i may have asked you about this before, so ignore me if we've been over this... but have you seen seven samurai? or any of akira kurosawa's films?

[1:21:12 PM] AE raises hand

[1:21:20 PM] pD says: i have seen most of the kurosawa films

[1:21:36 PM] pD says: any particular reason for asking?

[1:21:38 PM] nsy says: excellent. i just love kurosawa!

[1:21:59 PM] AE says: what was your favorite?

[1:22:03 PM] AE says: both of you.

[1:22:18 PM] nsy says: no, the samurai thing, and the movie thing triggered spreading activation in my brain is all

[1:23:10 PM] pD says: they all have their merits so, it is hard to have a favorite.

[1:23:25 PM] pD says: i especially enjoyed his use of cinematography

[1:23:31 PM] AE says: true... so many were copied in other films as well.

[1:23:51 PM] AE says: they were a big inspiration to Lucas on the Star Wars films.

[1:23:51 PM] pD says: coming from the Noh tradition - his camera perspective is much lower than the western tradition

[1:24:21 PM] pD says: yeah, hidden fortress was the inspiration for princess Leia, Han Solo, R2D2 and C3PO

[1:25:02 PM] pD says: on a comparative basis, i would say that Yojimbo is the most interesting and revealing

[1:25:30 PM] AE says: but a talking samurai rabbit?

[1:25:35 PM] pD says: because "a fistful of dollars" with clint eastwoord is a literally shot by shot re-creation

[1:26:16 PM] pD says: and, i must say that a fistful of dollar remains a very compelling story - which goes to show how good the original yojimbo is/was

[1:26:53 PM] pD says: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000041/

[1:27:48 PM] AE says: this is still one of my favorites: http://imdb.com/title/tt0047478/

[1:28:01 PM] AE says: it's a story that much older than the movie, and has been told many times since.

[1:28:30 PM] AE says: it's got the classic scene of the samurai joining together one at a time until they're all facing their adversaries.

[1:29:02 PM] AE says: "Dreams" has to be my all time favorite, though.

[1:29:24 PM] AE says: http://imdb.com/title/tt0100998/

[1:31:05 PM] AE says: To me, it's a very personal look inside his head.

[1:31:17 PM] AE says: to share your dreams like that... it speaks a lot about a person.

[1:31:41 PM] AE says: and when it's a person who has the ability to make the images of their dreams come real... that's very powerful.

[2:17:55 PM] pD says: AE's favorite films:

[2:17:56 PM] pD says: Here's my list of recommended, must see movies (in the order I thought of them):

1. Life is Beautiful

2. Train of Life

3. Brazil

4. Aliens

5. The Milagro Bean field War

6. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen

7. The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai

8. 20,000 Leagues under the Sea

9. Leon

10. Blade Runner

[2:18:06 PM] pD that was from AE

[2:18:42 PM] AE says: Wow! Those are some of the best movies!!!

[2:18:43 PM] AE says: oh...

[2:26:23 PM] AE says: so what are your favorites, both of you?

[2:26:59 PM] pD is not into lists - too much of it is dependant on moods

[2:27:47 PM] AE says: but some must stick out. some you must watch more than once or twice...

[2:27:50 PM] pD says: same idea as "comfort food"

[2:27:55 PM] pD says: tampopo would be high on my list

[2:28:04 PM] AE says: who directed that?

[2:28:43 PM] pD says: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092048/

[2:28:49 PM] pD says: Itami is the director

[2:29:23 PM] pD says: "roman holiday" is sort of the mindless snack for the soul

[2:29:49 PM] pD says: "terminator 1" was stunning with the machine that refused to die

[2:30:49 PM] pD says: "Nueve reinas" is an argentinian film that takes so many unexpected turns that you would just have to embrace it to enjoy it

[2:30:57 PM] pD says: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247586/

[2:33:02 PM] pD says: momento (interesting not in IMDB) employs a grabbing narrative that you would either turn it off within the first 15 minutes or you have to watch it to find out what happened http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_%28film%29

[2:34:00 PM] pD says: Audition is one of the most creepy films that I have seen: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/

[2:35:57 PM] pD says: 3-iron is a film where the main character did not utter a word, but the story flows and takes you on a wild ride on what contemporary Korea is about

[2:38:00 PM] pD says: speaking of Korea, A State of Mind, is a completely fascinating study on life under authoritarianism. and, yet, it is a very hopeful film not because people are going to overthrow the government but there is a sense of ease and peace between them: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456012/

[2:39:54 PM] pD says: anyway, these films all have their moments - i also love star wars and the godfather films

[2:40:07 PM] pD says: it is about what is the mood...

[5:21:26 PM] pD says: getting ready to fulfill my baby daddy duty...