[8/7/2007 9:26:42 AM] pD says: little boss has a fever
[8/7/2007 9:29:35 AM] nsy says: aww! poor little guy. Well, you'll be missed here, but at least you are here "virtually". Hope the little guy feels better soon!
[8/7/2007 10:13:38 AM] pD says: i hope so too, so his folks can get some sleep...
[8/7/2007 10:35:26 AM] AE says: yeah! that means teeth!
[8/7/2007 10:36:18 AM] pD says: AE is speaking from experience
[8/7/2007 10:36:23 AM] pD says: and he is correct,
[8/7/2007 10:36:25 AM] pD says: mostly
[8/7/2007 10:36:36 AM] pD says: as it turns out, he also has a running nose
[8/7/2007 10:36:38 AM] AE says: teething must really suck when you're little.
[8/7/2007 10:36:57 AM] AE says: yes, it wipes out the immune system and it's like they have a bad cold.
[8/7/2007 10:37:12 AM] pD says: so, this is a double whammy situation where he is suffering from the teeth (two molars at the same time, yikes) and some kind of viral thing
[8/7/2007 10:37:42 AM] pD says: anyway, i have a doc appointment later for him
[8/7/2007 10:43:23 AM] AE says: yuck. sorry to hear that!
[8/7/2007 10:44:12 AM] pD says: shit happens, this is part of the grand bargain in life.
[8/7/2007 10:44:27 AM] pD says: he is still a good kid
[8/7/2007 10:44:44 AM] pD is stating the obvious being a highly biased party
[8/7/2007 11:57:04 AM] AE says:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/brainshrub/wheres-the-baby.jpg[8/7/2007 11:57:08 AM] AE says: speaking of kids...
[8/7/2007 1:14:07 PM] pD says: just got back from the doc, do not know what bug he has. probably a viral thing. he is still under observation - poor thing
[8/7/2007 1:14:11 PM] pD says: i am going to grab a bite now
[8/8/2007 6:50:40 AM] AE says: Here's what I want for Christmas: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/faster-faster/video-of-rollerman-racing-against-600cc-sportbike-spoiler-he-wins-287158.php?autoplay=true
[8/8/2007 11:51:52 AM] AE says: http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=20501
[8/8/2007 10:22:15 PM] pD says: with a sick kid, i am not bored... just catching up on work after a day of unhappy kid...
[9:30:39 AM] pD says: howdy... It has been a long two days
[9:31:12 AM] pD says: no complaints on taking care of a sick/fussy kid (that is part of the grand bargain), but it sure takes a toll on your body...
[9:31:23 AM] pD says: so, have i missed anything good?
[9:35:30 AM] AE says: ah... the sweet disease of parenthood...
[9:36:08 AM] AE says: well, there was the new toy on my christmas list: http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=20501
[9:36:25 AM] AE says: and the cartoon:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/brainshrub/wheres-the-baby.jpg[9:42:57 AM] pD says:
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[9:43:22 AM] pD says: hahah! AE, this is a good illustration of why you run and i sit on my butt
[9:43:40 AM] pD says: that looks like a lot of work rolling on roads
[10:01:53 AM] AE says: oh but I be that view is awesome!
[10:04:18 AM] AE says: and here: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/reactable/reactable-synth-makes-touchy+feely-music-for-your-eyes-287729.php
[10:04:23 AM] AE says: you know... for kids.
[10:43:24 AM] AE says: Check this out!
[10:43:25 AM] AE says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc&mode=related&search=
[10:43:38 AM] AE says: WoW! I Totally think this company NEEDS one of these!
[10:43:51 AM] AE says: Tags:
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[10:43:59 AM] AE says: hah... whoops.
[10:44:09 AM] AE says:
[10:44:45 AM] AE says: IMHO, easily the coolest thing we've had up on NSA Chatters!
[11:17:43 AM] pD says: no company name pls
[11:17:51 AM] pD is a killjoy
[11:18:58 AM] pD says: it is pretty neat, but how long would it last? Not a huge fan of electronic music
[11:20:10 AM] AE says: no, but since it's a synthesizer you can give it any voice you want.
[11:20:33 AM] AE says: so you could mimic classical instruments (though that's not really the proper medium for this)
[11:20:53 AM] pD says: this is purely an opinion, i know - but, i can usually tell when a sound is synthesized or by conventional instruments
[11:21:11 AM] pD says: and, i agree with you that
[11:21:11 AM] AE says: True. but that doesn't mean it's not able to make good music.
[11:21:28 AM] AE says: though... actually I haven't really heard anything produced on it that I would actually enjoy listening too.
[11:21:30 AM] pD says: the point is not to mimic what has come before, but explore what is possible
[11:21:46 AM] AE says: it's more the technology, and the ability to dynamically control the music with such a cool interface!
[11:21:51 AM] AE says: exactly
[11:23:15 AM] pD says: well, i am old fashion in believing in virtuosity - nothing wrong with providing an easy ramp for the less talented (like me), but i have not seen/heard anything that would blow me away in the realm of electronic music
[11:24:00 AM] pD says: and, i do not know if it is a limitation on the instrument or somehow we (collectively) have not yet figure out how we define that music form
[11:24:03 AM] AE says: Odd. I feel the same about jazz, though I know I'm in the minority.
[11:24:25 AM] AE says: There is some electronic music that totally blows me away.
[11:24:28 AM] pD says: actually, most jazz performance is pretty crappy
[11:24:37 AM] AE says: haha. So it's not just me then.
[11:25:02 AM] pD says: people want to improvise on jazz, because all the greats can do it
[11:25:13 AM] AE says: but not everyone can do it great.
[11:25:23 AM] pD says: but, what people often do not realize is how much effort it takes to improvise in the first place
[11:25:37 AM] pD says: also, once you get to that level, how much more work is involved in not repeating yourself
[11:26:03 AM] pD says: because, it is very easy to find a set of crutches that you can always fall back on when you are in a jam - during improv
[11:26:32 AM] pD says: so, for example, john coltrane was known as practicing every waking hour - either writing or trying out new notes on his instrument
[11:26:54 AM] pD says: and, sure enough, he is one of the most influential because he keeps breaking new grounds
[11:27:45 AM] pD says: on the other hand, this does not meant lesser souls than Coltrane cannot do jazz - just different style and in much smaller dosages
[11:28:27 AM] pD says: just like eating, you should not have 3 start meals everyday. a snack stall on the street can provide inspiration.
[11:28:29 AM] pD says: sometimes
[11:33:20 AM] AE says: Ok. I'll have to find some Coltrane and check him out.
[11:33:31 AM] AE says: Perhaps I just haven't heard good jazz before.
[11:33:37 AM] AE says: only elevator and Muzak.
[11:33:39 AM] AE says: yuck.
[11:33:51 AM] pD says: muzak sucks! it ruins even the best music
[11:34:08 AM] AE says: you should check out a group called "Lounge against the Machine"
[11:34:33 AM] AE says: they take heavy metal, industrial, and Rage Against the machine kind of music and "loungify" it.
[11:34:45 AM] pD says: well, i would suggest you start with Blue Trane and My Favorite Things. These are two of the major works from his earlier period - tends to be a bit more listener friendly
[11:35:41 AM] pD says: Miles Davis is also another major figure - and i think the fact that he went to Julliard (the music school, but he dropped out) helped him a great deal in providing a much larger canvass in his music making
[11:36:16 AM] pD says: he actually ventured into electronic music in the 70's. Not a critical success, but he gave that genre a great deal of credibility as a result
[11:38:10 AM] pD says: speaking of electronic music-ish in the jazz format, you might also want to check out Herbie Hancock's HeadHunter - it is the first major work on Funk with a jazz context - it sort of borders on groovy musak because the texture sounds very similar unless you pay attention. but, its internal structure was quite complex - a fun academic piece for dorks like me
[11:40:21 AM] pD says: you may also enjoy max roach and Sonny Rollin’s Saxophone Colossus - this was the first major hard-bob jazz. amongst other things, max roach's use of drum as a performance instrument instead of just beat keeper was a major break through and, if you listen closely, the kind of texture he can get out of his set is nothing short of amazing
[11:41:22 AM] pD says: finally, dave brubeck's take five and the rest of the recording on that album is a major work from the "west coast" jazz. it comes from a completely different tradition and is quite enjoyable
[11:42:03 AM] pD says: well, this is a very partial list of several major genres that may be worth checking out. hopefully, you will find at least one that sings to you
[11:42:58 AM] AE says: Cool! Thanks for the recommendations.
[11:44:10 AM] pD says: oops, for miles davis, Kind of Blue (the first/wrong recording) and Sketches of Spain would give you a good flavor
[11:45:03 AM] pD says: Interestingly, Sketches of Spain is not on my favorite recording list for Davis - but I think it is a function of my classical training (which involves a lot of spanish work) interfering
[11:45:34 AM] pD says: Kind of Blue is probably the most famous jazz work of all time - highly enjoyable. it does have an interesting history
[11:46:35 AM] pD says: basically, the original release was done on the wrong speed - it was faster, so both the tempo and pitch are higher than the actual recording. So, for the longest time, practitioners who are looking to play the piece always have problem re-producing the sound from the sheet music vis-à-vis the recording
[11:47:13 AM] pD says: a few years back, somebody found the original recording tapes. And, long story short, figured out what happened. so, there are now two release, the "wrong" and the "corrected"
[11:47:59 AM] pD says: the corrected version definitely makes a lot more sense musically because the change in style for Miles davis was not as drastic - there is a clearly a sense of continuity
[11:49:33 AM] pD says: on the other hand, i would argue (and what do i know) that the "wrong" version was so much more fresh and earth shattering, that it is the "right" version. the impressionistic style that keeps a sense of urgency without sounding hurried - that was the reason why that recording was such a Wow!
[11:49:42 AM] pD says: and, naturally, I have both recording...
[11:49:59 AM] pD will stop yakking about jazz for now
[11:51:28 AM] AE says: No. Thank you for sharing your background knowledge. It helps to know this stuff to appreciate the music.
[11:51:40 AM] AE says: brb. we're heading out of the shedquarters and up to the house.
[12:26:12 PM] AE says: pD, question: do we have samples of branded product?
[12:32:20 PM] nsy says: i sent a new mail with the samples :)
[12:32:38 PM] AE says: saw that. You're always on top of things nsy!
[12:33:21 PM] nsy says: hey pD, have you heard the charlie hunter trio, or the bad plus?
[12:33:46 PM] nsy says: http://www.charliehunter.com/
[12:34:14 PM] nsy says: charlie plays guitar and bass at the same time on a custom instrument - so cool!
[12:35:00 PM] nsy says: the bad plus is great nerd jazz http://www.thebadplus.com/
[12:45:05 PM] nsy says: i love Wes Montgomery's "So much Guitar!" - good one too
[12:48:52 PM] nsy says: i also forgot how great and terrible the movie "six string samurai" could be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-String_Samurai
[12:56:53 PM] pD says: is this the one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqrd6buFHE
[12:56:57 PM] pD says: cool!
[12:57:03 PM] pD says:
[12:57:19 PM] nsy says: hahaha - yep - thats it!
[12:58:27 PM] nsy says: it's reminiscent of the guitar battle from the movie crossroads
[1:19:22 PM] pD says: looks so non-sensical. love it. i am putting it on my list
[1:20:57 PM] nsy says: i may have asked you about this before, so ignore me if we've been over this... but have you seen seven samurai? or any of akira kurosawa's films?
[1:21:12 PM] AE raises hand
[1:21:20 PM] pD says: i have seen most of the kurosawa films
[1:21:36 PM] pD says: any particular reason for asking?
[1:21:38 PM] nsy says: excellent. i just love kurosawa!
[1:21:59 PM] AE says: what was your favorite?
[1:22:03 PM] AE says: both of you.
[1:22:18 PM] nsy says: no, the samurai thing, and the movie thing triggered spreading activation in my brain is all
[1:23:10 PM] pD says: they all have their merits so, it is hard to have a favorite.
[1:23:25 PM] pD says: i especially enjoyed his use of cinematography
[1:23:31 PM] AE says: true... so many were copied in other films as well.
[1:23:51 PM] AE says: they were a big inspiration to Lucas on the Star Wars films.
[1:23:51 PM] pD says: coming from the Noh tradition - his camera perspective is much lower than the western tradition
[1:24:21 PM] pD says: yeah, hidden fortress was the inspiration for princess Leia, Han Solo, R2D2 and C3PO
[1:25:02 PM] pD says: on a comparative basis, i would say that Yojimbo is the most interesting and revealing
[1:25:30 PM] AE says: but a talking samurai rabbit?
[1:25:35 PM] pD says: because "a fistful of dollars" with clint eastwoord is a literally shot by shot re-creation
[1:26:16 PM] pD says: and, i must say that a fistful of dollar remains a very compelling story - which goes to show how good the original yojimbo is/was
[1:26:53 PM] pD says: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000041/
[1:27:48 PM] AE says: this is still one of my favorites: http://imdb.com/title/tt0047478/
[1:28:01 PM] AE says: it's a story that much older than the movie, and has been told many times since.
[1:28:30 PM] AE says: it's got the classic scene of the samurai joining together one at a time until they're all facing their adversaries.
[1:29:02 PM] AE says: "Dreams" has to be my all time favorite, though.
[1:29:24 PM] AE says: http://imdb.com/title/tt0100998/
[1:31:05 PM] AE says: To me, it's a very personal look inside his head.
[1:31:17 PM] AE says: to share your dreams like that... it speaks a lot about a person.
[1:31:41 PM] AE says: and when it's a person who has the ability to make the images of their dreams come real... that's very powerful.
[2:17:55 PM] pD says: AE's favorite films:
[2:17:56 PM] pD says: Here's my list of recommended, must see movies (in the order I thought of them):
1. Life is Beautiful
2. Train of Life
3. Brazil
4. Aliens
5. The Milagro Bean field War
6. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
7. The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
8. 20,000 Leagues under the Sea
9. Leon
10. Blade Runner
[2:18:06 PM] pD that was from AE
[2:18:42 PM] AE says: Wow! Those are some of the best movies!!!
[2:18:43 PM] AE says: oh...
[2:26:23 PM] AE says: so what are your favorites, both of you?
[2:26:59 PM] pD is not into lists - too much of it is dependant on moods
[2:27:47 PM] AE says: but some must stick out. some you must watch more than once or twice...
[2:27:50 PM] pD says: same idea as "comfort food"
[2:27:55 PM] pD says: tampopo would be high on my list
[2:28:04 PM] AE says: who directed that?
[2:28:43 PM] pD says: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092048/
[2:28:49 PM] pD says: Itami is the director
[2:29:23 PM] pD says: "roman holiday" is sort of the mindless snack for the soul
[2:29:49 PM] pD says: "terminator 1" was stunning with the machine that refused to die
[2:30:49 PM] pD says: "Nueve reinas" is an argentinian film that takes so many unexpected turns that you would just have to embrace it to enjoy it
[2:30:57 PM] pD says: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247586/
[2:33:02 PM] pD says: momento (interesting not in IMDB) employs a grabbing narrative that you would either turn it off within the first 15 minutes or you have to watch it to find out what happened http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_%28film%29
[2:34:00 PM] pD says: Audition is one of the most creepy films that I have seen: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/
[2:35:57 PM] pD says: 3-iron is a film where the main character did not utter a word, but the story flows and takes you on a wild ride on what contemporary Korea is about
[2:38:00 PM] pD says: speaking of Korea, A State of Mind, is a completely fascinating study on life under authoritarianism. and, yet, it is a very hopeful film not because people are going to overthrow the government but there is a sense of ease and peace between them: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456012/
[2:39:54 PM] pD says: anyway, these films all have their moments - i also love star wars and the godfather films
[2:40:07 PM] pD says: it is about what is the mood...
[5:21:26 PM] pD says: getting ready to fulfill my baby daddy duty...
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