Darth Vader - re-colonization - troops - bastards

[12:13:07 PM] pD says: i thought about the darth vader script and decided to change the ending a bit

[12:13:29 PM] pD says: basically, i want to make all the characters happy with the ending

[12:13:59 PM] pD says: so, instead of DV working in a sweat shop for air massage, he thinks that he has found his calling

[12:14:11 PM] pD says: so, the act 3 scene 2 sequence would be

[12:14:19 PM] pD says: 1. excited women for their regime

[12:14:29 PM] pD says: 2. Bakka-san and Nat counting money happily

[12:14:42 PM] pD says: 3. DV happily applying his air massage trade

[12:14:44 PM] pD says: the end

[12:15:00 PM] AE says: wait... vader was born on what planet?

[12:15:04 PM] AE says: tatooine...

[12:15:13 PM] AE says: so... does he have a green card?

[12:15:19 PM] AE says: you can see where this is going...

[12:18:38 PM] pD says: recall the enlightened alien colonizer discussion?

[12:18:40 PM] pD says: http://nsa-chatters.blogspot.com/2007/06/nsa-subpoena-re-colonization-jowels.html

[12:18:51 PM] pD says: maybe DV is one of the recolonizers?

[12:19:21 PM] pD in cheering outfit

[12:19:35 PM] pD says: DV! He so Cool!

[12:19:53 PM] pD says: Air massage recolonizers!

[12:19:58 PM] pD says: Go DV! Yeah!

[12:22:19 PM] pD says: btw, where is this going?

[12:22:34 PM] AE says: no, the NSA raids the massage shop. DV is brought into custody as an illegal alien and suspected terrorist (something about the black suit). Bakka-san's reputation and business is ruined. The women are in tears. End of story.

[12:22:56 PM] AE says: we'll label it as a comedy.

[12:23:54 PM] pD says: hahah! i like that

[12:24:00 PM] pD says: that would be act 4 though

[12:24:02 PM] AE says: or, the customers, led by Bakka-san and Nat, stage a break-out and spring DV from the NSA holding cell, and they live in fear for the rest of their lives.

[12:24:04 PM] AE says: Ok.

[12:24:50 PM] AE says: Or DV, while being held, can use his Jedi/Sith powers to begin to corrupt the NSA from within.

[12:25:11 PM] pD says: and, he only charges 7/8 of their souls

[12:25:23 PM] AE says: perhaps he can change into a tool of his own design... eventually he winds up in charge of the NSA.

[12:25:40 PM] AE says: instead of 9/8?

[12:30:42 PM] pD says: 9/8 is not a sustainable practice - gotta leave enough for the next round

[12:33:07 PM] AE says: oh... Ok...

[12:33:10 PM] AE pouts

[12:35:01 PM] pD says: i like the illegal alien angle for DV as a sequel though

[12:35:13 PM] pD says: sort of like "Cops"

[12:35:30 PM] AE says: you ever see "Troops"?

[12:35:48 PM] pD says: not yet, i have downloaded it, but i need to install quicktime

[12:36:40 PM] AE says: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5351101160052590481

[12:36:54 PM] AE says: that's on google video... don't think QT is required.

[1:15:03 PM] pD says: hahah! just watched it. it is brilliant!

[3:02:58 PM] nsy says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXEhqd3la4s

[4:10:50 PM] pD says: anyone home?

[4:11:15 PM] nsy says: nobody here but us chickens.

[4:11:25 PM] nsy says: busy work day :\

[4:12:15 PM] pD says: i know what you mean, i was going to say something smart, but the smart juice ain't flowing

[5:38:06 PM] pD says: bastards!

[5:43:13 PM] nsy says: ok, gotta go - will read this tomorrow :(

[5:43:31 PM] pD says: double bastards

blog search - bubble tea - steampunk - historic perspectives - dog sex doll - Darth Vader - script

[11:16:01 AM] pD says: just an idea

[11:16:07 AM] pD says: would like to add a search function for the blog

[11:16:15 AM] pD says: did not find anything obvious inside blogger

[11:16:23 AM] pD says: is there a way to do it via google directly?

[11:16:28 AM] pD says: specify a site search or something?

[11:17:17 AM] AE says: they probably have a search tool.

[11:19:25 AM] nsy says: not sure about this one... http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/1917

[11:25:03 AM] nsy says: interesting: http://particletree.com/features/replacing-trackback-with-blog-search/
[11:33:56 AM] pD says: thanks for the two ideas, nsy

[11:34:03 AM] pD says: they both require script implementations

[11:34:14 AM] pD says: which is a bit beyond me

[11:34:23 AM] pD says: i am looking for a hosted service that is free

[11:34:29 AM] pD says: on google search

[11:34:35 AM] pD says: there is a site search ability

[11:34:51 AM] pD says: "search term site:url" is the format

[11:35:07 AM] pD says: but, when I did a "chocolate site:nsa-chatters.blogspot.com" nothing came up

[11:39:16 AM] nsy says: http://blogsearch.google.com/

[11:41:02 AM] nsy says: chocolate site:http://nsa-chatters.blogspot.com

[11:53:46 AM] pD says: http://nsa-chatters.blogspot.com/2007/06/first-responder-porn-and-vc-chocolate.html

[12:08:32 PM] pD says: nsy, thanks for figuring out

[12:08:42 PM] pD says: it does work with google blog search if specify the site

[12:08:52 PM] pD says: but, i am having problem with creating a form that would do that

[12:09:04 PM] pD says: so far, it would only pop up the goggle blog search window

[12:09:26 PM] pD says: but, it does not allow for the search entry as well as the "site:nsa-chatters.blogpot.com" append

[12:09:32 PM] pD says: can you have a look?

[12:09:38 PM] pD says:

Enter your search:

{form action="http://blogsearch.google.com" style="border:1px solid #ccc;padding:3px;text-align:center;" target="popupwindow" method="post" onsubmit="window.open('http://blogsearch.google.com', 'popupwindow', 'scrollbars=yes,width=550,height=520');return true">{br/>Enter your search:{br/>{input style="width:140px" name="search" type="text"/>{input value="+site:nsa-chatters.blogspot.com" name="site-info" type="hidden"/>{input value="Search NSA Chatters" type="submit"/>{/form>

Note: "<" has been repalced by "{" to show the code

[12:09:54 PM] pD says: i also added onto the blog, although non-functioning

[12:09:57 PM] pD says: you can refer to

[12:10:09 PM] nsy says: yah - i'm not sure about that one, there should be a way to embed the search with those default parameters - did you specify the http:// at the beginning? shouldn't make a difference.

[12:11:24 PM] AE says: wow... it's really windy and cold over here.

[12:11:25 PM] AE says: and hello

[12:11:36 PM] AE says: and the bubble tea was really interesting

[12:12:01 PM] AE says: i didn't like the way my body felt after drinking it, though. i suspect the tea has high amounts of caffeine.

[12:12:14 PM] AE says: So... Thursday is the Summer Solstice.

[12:12:21 PM] AE says: longest day of the year

[12:12:38 PM] AE says: and we're lighting a fire to warm our house today...

[12:12:54 PM] AE says: splain to me the whole global warming thing again?

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[12:20:14 PM] pD says: glad that you enjoy bubble tea - at least the form factor

[12:20:22 PM] pD says: i know what you mean about its after effects

[12:20:50 PM] pD says: i think it is a combination of caffeine, sugar, and probably some preservatives for the color and flavors

[12:21:01 PM] pD says: i would not recommend eating it everyday

[12:21:06 PM] pD says: but, it is fun every so often

[12:21:29 PM] pD says: also gives your body some practice on foreign toxins

[12:29:20 PM] nsy says: those pictures turned out great - thanks YF!

[12:29:43 PM] AE says: yes! post them.

[12:30:02 PM] pD says: will do - post them - for this IM session

[12:45:51 PM] pD says: Steam-Driven Dreams: The Wondrously Whimsical World of Steampunk - http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mods/multimedia/2007/06/gallery_steampunk

[12:45:56 PM] pD says: this is for you, AE

[12:49:53 PM] nsy says: but i'm going to steal it from him - that stuff rocks!

[12:50:17 PM] AE says: ja, here's mine new laptop: http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/steampunkfest/2037274

[12:50:57 PM] nsy says: i've come home to Terra

[12:51:08 PM] nsy sighing whimsically

[12:51:14 PM] AE says: what is it about steampunk? am i the only one who finds this stuff interesting... Ok, nsy and I?

[12:51:50 PM] AE says: it's like the best of both worlds? the simplicity of the late victorian era combined with today's tech ideas...

[12:53:11 PM] AE says: or perhaps we're all just missing 'real' elements from our products... we touch plastic all day... we require something alive like metal and wood, leather, brass... i'm drooling...

[12:53:35 PM] nsy says: when Mike asked me what I wanted for my b-day last year, I asked for a leather motorcycle cap and goggles - one of the exhibits just reminded me of that. he could only find old welders' goggles on e-bay, but i can't see through them.

[12:54:15 PM] nsy says: http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/steampunkfest/2037266

[12:54:36 PM] AE says: http://www.wired.com/culture/design/multimedia/2007/06/gallery_nemo_office?currentPage=1&slideView=1

[12:54:58 PM] AE says: check the girlgeniousonline.com store...

[12:57:00 PM] nsy says: geez, i love this stuff! when i was a teenager, i used to horde metal scraps from the machine shops in the LA valley and use them to decorate my room, and I loved wearing old military gear, but I never knew there was a name for that stuff - much less other people doing the same thing - my peeps!

[12:57:33 PM] pD says: this is few days late, but

[12:57:35 PM] pD says: On June 16, James Joyce aficionados the world over celebrated Bloomsday.

The day is named after advertising salesman Leopold Bloom, protagonist of Joyce's novel Ulysses. The entirety of this 700+ page book recounts one ordinary day, June 16, 1904, as various characters go about their ways in Dublin.

In those 24 hours Bloom traversed the streets of Dublin.

[12:57:46 PM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsday

[1:00:41 PM] AE has changed the chat topic to "SteamPunk"

[1:01:10 PM] AE says: remember the movie 20,000 leagues under the sea? I always wanted a house that looked like that set.

[1:02:35 PM] AE says: http://www.disneysub.com/index.html

[1:09:06 PM] pD the clinical contrarian

[1:09:20 PM] pD says: i enjoy steampunk stories

[1:09:35 PM] AE says: like what?

[1:09:46 PM] pD says: but, it is always the story that comes first. the use of steam as an energy source is more of a device for me

[1:09:54 PM] pD says: in otehr words, if the story stink, it ain't flying

[1:10:00 PM] AE says: but it does help set the mood.

[1:10:10 PM] pD says: well, any number of anime such as robot carnival

[1:10:20 PM] pD says: or, there was a film called steamboy by the team that made Akira

[1:10:47 PM] pD says: so, in the case of robot carnival, the story was compelling, and the steam technology, frankly, did not get in the way

[1:11:14 PM] pD says: whereas Steamboy, the story started to drag half way through and the use of steam as a technology just felt contrived

[1:11:22 PM] pD says: as for setting the mood, that is definitely true

[1:11:26 PM] pD says: on the other hand,

[1:11:45 PM] pD says: i would note that there is a good degree of "projection" in the mood

[1:12:14 PM] pD says: again, in the context of "victorian" age, there is a true sense of optimism

[1:12:31 PM] pD says: whereas futuristic stories are almost required to have

[1:12:38 PM] pD says: a sinister/sad aspect

[1:13:07 PM] pD says: just like any story, it provides a good short hand to set the mood

[1:13:27 PM] pD says: again, i am not against it, as a matter of a fact, short hands in various forms are what makes our everyday life easy

[1:14:02 PM] pD says: so, take a somewhat hybrid of steampunk and futuristic creation, Brazil

[1:14:45 PM] pD says: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/

[1:15:05 PM] pD says: it has a blend of steampunk-ish technology as well as a vision of the big brother

[1:15:34 PM] pD says: let's not forget that 20th century is a very anxious time in our current intellectual perspective

[1:15:51 PM] AE says: interesting... I never would have thought of Brazil as steampunk, but the computers they used were certainly cool!

[1:16:09 PM] AE says: more like 50's era technology.

[1:16:16 PM] pD says: sure, victorian age has seen its share of bad stuff from colonization and wars

[1:16:53 PM] pD says: but, in our current historic view, these issues have been addressed, so they become more of a history as oppose to something that we are still living with today

[1:17:54 PM] pD says: when i think of Brazil, i think of george orwell which is very near victorian time but, things were starting to "downhill"

[1:18:36 PM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_orwell

[1:24:12 PM] pD says: btw, we have some more votes for the jolly roger flag: http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Results.php?poll_id=117595

[1:24:23 PM] pD says: did you guys ask your friends to vote?

[1:24:43 PM] pD says: http://nsa-chatters.blogspot.com/2007/06/vote-for-official-nsa-chatters-flag.html

[2:01:56 PM] AE says: you guys are my friends. are we supposed to have other friends as well?

[2:14:54 PM] nsy says: tablecloths were invented in the victorian era because the sight of a "leg" was considered so erotic that even table legs were covered to save men from becoming aroused and attempting lewd acts with tables. or so they said on the history channel

[2:18:19 PM] AE says: haha. and now they have dog sex dolls... ah, we've come a long ways!

[2:27:33 PM] nsy says: those poor repressed victorian women - had to go to the doctor to cure their "hysteria". As a woman, i wouldn't want to go back to those times for anything, but the retro aesthetic stuff is fun.

[2:43:54 PM] pD says: sex dolls for dogs! hahah!

[2:43:59 PM] pD says: how does that work?

[2:45:13 PM] AE says: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/hotdoll-the-sex-doll-for-dogs-253334.php

[2:45:30 PM] AE says: yeah.... long gone are the days of reason

[2:49:17 PM] pD says: hahah! have you read the comments?

[2:49:20 PM] pD says: it is a riot

[2:49:46 PM] pD says: is it dish washer safe? (rofl)

[2:50:07 PM] AE says: alright... with that parting gift I'm out of here.

[2:50:12 PM] AE says: see you all tomorrow.

[2:51:13 PM] pD says: wait!

[2:51:38 PM] pD says: we have not told you the brilliant darth vader, shaft flick idea!

[2:51:47 PM] AE says: ... yes?

[2:51:58 PM] pD says: ha, i thought you are leaving?

[2:52:09 PM] pD says: thought that i leave it with a cliff hanger

[2:52:21 PM] AE says: haha. Ok. Bye then!

[2:55:09 PM] pD just noticing nsy erecting rampart

[3:02:03 PM] nsy says: :)

[4:07:41 PM] pD says: so, here is the general thinking about darth vader

[4:07:51 PM] pD says: act 1 scene 1

[4:08:21 PM] pD says: vader is in S&M gear on the street - ref: the isreali ambassador

[4:09:24 PM] pD says: act 1 scene 2

[4:09:56 PM] pD says: vader is berated by his handler (Nat - as in natalie portman) for being a nincompoop

[4:10:45 PM] pD says: we a transformation in vader as Nat tells him that he is just a good-for-nothing into "shaft" he is out to do good and stand by the weak

[4:11:16 PM] pD says: act 2 scene 1

[4:12:37 PM] pD says: vader is on the prowl. he is picking up trash on the street, walking (and scaring) little kids cross the street, then, he hear panting (scream-ish) noises from a shop/shack

[4:12:46 PM] pD says: act 2 scene 2

[4:14:04 PM] pD says: vader finds a small man lamenting his inability to provide good massage service due to overwork and poor nutrition. then, comes a lady in robe asking what is the hold up. she ain't got whole day for her session.

[4:16:03 PM] pD says: we see a spark in vader's eye/mask while the voice over says "i must save this man from his misery". then, vader turned to the lady and politely ask her to wait a few minutes as the small man "Bakka-san" is just about ready for a new regime specially designed for her. The lady leaves in delight with a worried look in Bakka-san's face

[4:16:08 PM] pD says: act 3 scene 1

[4:17:16 PM] pD says: the lady is stretched out on the massage table, you can see her happy face and complimenting how Bakka's regime is amazing, but there is nobody in the room.

[4:18:31 PM] pD says: but to the other side of the wall, we see vader giving air massage while there is an air of quiet happiness on the face of Bakka-san

[4:19:38 PM] pD says: then, suddenly vader's cell phone rang. Bakka-san gestured to vader to continue and pick up the cell phone and talk into it. inaudible but you hear Nat's giggle and Bakka-san's face brighten and impressed as the conversation continues

[4:19:45 PM] pD says: act 3 scene 2

[4:20:38 PM] pD says: the finale: the shop/shack now looks busy with a long line of women talking excitedly about this new massage regime that hits the spot.

[4:20:50 PM] pD says: cut to the massage table, a happy woman

[4:21:10 PM] pD says: cut to vader room, vader is giving air massage with sweat on the mask

[4:21:43 PM] pD says: cut to another room and Bakka-san and Nat are happily counting the money

[4:21:45 PM] pD says: the end


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NSA Chatters Crew

judges - poetry - tennyson - philosophers - candide - Cartoons - squirrels - ANia - Darth Vader - air massage

[12:46:06 PM] pD says: Senior judge cleared of flashing

[12:46:13 PM] pD says: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/6747975.stm

[12:46:23 PM] pD says: sad but true

[12:47:22 PM] nsy says: agh! i call shenanigans! get the pitchfork, son!!!

[12:50:18 PM] nsy says: well, its not as bad as some shenanigans (remember OJ?)

[12:50:42 PM] pD says: i would hardly call OJ shenanigan

[12:51:41 PM] nsy says: yes, that is the understatement of the year

[12:52:53 PM] pD says: Roy L. Pearson Jr. wanted to dress sharply for his new job as an administrative law judge here. So when his neighborhood dry cleaner misplaced a pair of expensive pants he had planned to wear his first week on the bench, Judge Pearson was annoyed.

So annoyed that he sued — for $67.3 million.

[12:53:02 PM] pD says: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/13/us/13pants.html?th&emc=th

[12:53:15 PM] pD says: i am telling you, those judge types are just dangerous

[12:53:23 PM] pD says: first getting off on flashing charges

[12:53:43 PM] pD says: now, suing for misplaced pants for $67+mm

[12:53:54 PM] pD says: gotta love the common law system

[12:55:16 PM] nsy says: there should be a strict screening process for judges... hmm

[1:10:39 PM] pD says: or, i was actually thinking that maybe it is time to get a jd degree so i can apply to be a judge too

[1:10:51 PM] pD says: surely, my moral character does not fall below theirs...

[1:11:48 PM] nsy says: all in favor... "Aye"

[1:12:07 PM] pD says: to be technically correct, since I am not an aspiring judge

[1:12:19 PM] pD says: you would need to introduce a motion

[1:12:26 PM] pD says: then, ask for aye's

[1:13:08 PM] pD says: http://www.robertsrules.org/

[1:13:23 PM] nsy says: wow, it looks like you are already on your way.

[1:13:38 PM] pD says: p.s. i meant to say, I am "now" an aspiring judge

[1:14:21 PM] nsy says: good thing - thats what i read. my brain works funny like that.

[1:14:48 PM] nsy says: wow, robert is very orderly

[1:15:07 PM] pD says: if you are going to rob somebody, rob them properly

[1:15:10 PM] pD says: that is what i say

[1:15:54 PM] nsy says: heh

[1:16:29 PM] pD showing off his caliber of moral character fitting of being a judge

[1:16:58 PM] nsy says: impressive show. thanks for the front row seats!

[1:19:52 PM] pD says: you are just waiting for a disaster to happen, aren't you!

[1:22:08 PM] nsy says: (wide-eyed, edge of seat, munching popcorn)

[1:25:25 PM] pD says: BOOO!

[1:27:11 PM] nsy says: aaagh! (popcorn everywhere)

[1:35:13 PM] nsy says: http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/article/10923.html

[1:38:20 PM] nsy says: http://www.slapupsidethehead.com/wp-content/media/2006/09/new_judge.jpg

[1:42:51 PM] nsy says: http://www.thecards.com/images/bigcards/judge.jpg

[1:49:57 PM] pD says: just posted last one: http://nsa-chatters.blogspot.com/2007/06/callebaut-valrhona-flashing-judge.html

[1:51:36 PM] pD says: i think for me, i would be the honorable white wig with the word "what is in it for me" carved on the face

[1:53:52 PM] pD has changed the chat topic to "poetry"

[1:54:25 PM] pD says: so, i was thinking about of a conversation with BIB

[1:54:49 PM] pD says: a.k.a. benevolent illustrious boss

[1:55:11 PM] pD says: she was taking a class on poetry therapy and was complaining that she does not get poetry

[1:55:52 PM] pD says: that was part of her shrinking training

[1:56:24 PM] pD says: anyway, it kind of got me thinking about poetry - i think the biggest problem is often time there is a perception that poetry has to be difficult

[1:57:03 PM] pD says: but, what it really is is about exposing difficult emotions

[1:57:27 PM] pD says: it could be about bliss, but how do you write about bliss that would communicate with the next person

[1:58:51 PM] nsy says: (back-topic) i would be judge mentoch. you can be judge mightor: http://www.answers.com/topic/harvey-birdman-attorney-at-law (and back-topic)

[1:59:27 PM] nsy says: ok, poetry... i think there is poetry for moments.

[1:59:58 PM] nsy says: you understand it when you have experienced the thing the poet is writing about, so as i grow and learn, i relate to more poetry

[2:00:52 PM] nsy says: some experiences i will never have, so i can never relate to those poems

[2:01:46 PM] nsy says: and like you said - expressing difficult emotions. so people often feel they are the only one experiencing that until they hear it in prose, and realize they are not alone - or something. ;)

[2:02:06 PM] nsy says: music can have a similar effect i guess

[2:02:45 PM] pD says: love mightor

[2:02:58 PM] pD says: i need to think about what i will cough up

[2:03:04 PM] pD says: also need to work on my southern accent

[2:03:28 PM] pD says: for somebody who has spent years in the south, i am a really sorry excuse for the way i talk...

[2:04:14 PM] pD says: i think you are quite right about having the right set of experiences

[2:04:25 PM] pD says: in that context, poetry is nothing but a hook

[2:04:45 PM] pD says: to take you on a journey

[2:05:27 PM] pD says: having said that, i do think that it is possible to "get a sense" of what the poem is talking about even without primary experience

[2:05:39 PM] nsy says: i think the best poets do not write for anyone but themselves. to push out something that is eating them from the inside. i love those poems.

[2:05:42 PM] pD says: for example, tennyson's "charge of the light brigade"

[2:06:10 PM] nsy says: yes, I can see that. you san definitely get a sense there.

[2:12:00 PM] nsy says: maybe truly great poets express their ideas in such a way that you can have a vicarious experience. but those are not my personal favorites. (again with the eye of the beholder thing) i prefer the feeling of resonance and validation that comes from poetry that echoes familiar emotional (but not necessarily literal) experiences.

[2:14:08 PM] pD says: ever the procrastinator, i would just say that it is all context dependant. sometimes, i want to be taken for a ride to an unfamiliar land and other times, i just want to know that life does not suck for me alone

[2:14:25 PM] pD says: the flip side of it is the creation of poems.

[2:14:40 PM] pD says: that was part of the BIB discussion on poetry therapy

[2:15:13 PM] pD says: and, i think, for me, i have come to the stage in life where i just throw things in front of me in a minimalistic fashion

[2:15:18 PM] pD says: for poems i mean

[2:15:42 PM] pD says: so, trying to get to the nugget of the idea that i am getting at and ignore everything else

[2:15:57 PM] pD says: sort of a lazy man's poetry method, i suppose

[2:17:41 PM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Tennyson%2C_1st_Baron_Tennyson

[2:19:36 PM] pD says: btw, you can hear Tennyson read the charge of light brigade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Charge_of_the_Light_Brigade_(poem)
[2:29:16 PM] nsy says: wow, a moving experience!

[2:29:34 PM] nsy says: i didn’t realize so many famous quotes originated from his prose

[2:33:23 PM] nsy says: useless factoid... the band Iron Maiden used that poem as inspiration for their song "The Trooper"

[2:35:10 PM] nsy says: plus the crimean war

[2:35:45 PM] nsy says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War

[2:40:20 PM] nsy says: interesting how Tennyson referred to Bruno and Spinoza - I'm learning so much. God Save Wikipedia!

[2:40:59 PM] pD says: oh, what did Tennyson say about Spinoza?

[2:41:19 PM] pD says: wasn't spinoza the "best of all possible world" guy?

[2:41:51 PM] nsy says: there is no direct quote except for bruno: His son's biography confirms that Tennyson was not Christian, noting that Tennyson praised Giordano Bruno and Spinoza on his deathbed, saying of Bruno: "His view of God is in some ways mine."

[2:42:44 PM] nsy says: yes Spinoza... "By virtue of his magnum opus, the posthumous Ethics, Spinoza is also considered one of Western philosophy's definitive ethicists."

[2:43:18 PM] nsy says: "Spinoza lived quietly as a lens grinder, turning down rewards and honours throughout his life, including prestigious teaching positions, and gave his family inheritance to his sister."

[2:44:14 PM] nsy says: Bruno was an Italian philosopher, priest, cosmologist, and occultist. Bruno is known for his system of mnemonics based upon organized knowledge and as an early proponent of the idea of an infinite and homogeneous universe. Burned at the stake as a heretic by the Roman Inquisition, Bruno is often seen as the first "martyr [1] for science."

[2:44:42 PM] nsy says: Bruno developed a pantheistic hylozoistic system, essentially incompatible with orthodox Christian Trinitarian beliefs.

[2:45:21 PM] nsy says: wow - i didn’t even know what hylozoistic was. brain so happy... soaking it up...

[2:53:35 PM] pD says: sorry i was confusing Spinoza with Leibniz who was lampooned by Voltaire in Candide

[2:53:47 PM] pD says: Leibniz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Leibniz

[2:54:00 PM] pD says: Candide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candide

[2:54:56 PM] pD says: When i read candide long time ago, i thought Dr Pangloss was really cool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangloss)

[2:55:11 PM] pD says: i suppose my twisted sense of what is funny is well developed early on...

[2:55:38 PM] pD says: okay, i need to dig up my book on western philosophies

[2:55:49 PM] pD says: it has been a while since i touch philosophy

[2:58:59 PM] nsy says: i never studied philosophy but my good friend has a philo degree, so i learn whether i like it or not ;). but i secretly love it - don't tell her.

[3:06:27 PM] nsy says: pangloss - fascinating. so much modern terminology stems from the story. panglossian paradigm even has its own page.

[3:07:07 PM] pD says: well, Candide was considered a major work by Voltaire

[3:07:25 PM] pD says: and, of course, it was often a required reading for something like me

[3:07:40 PM] pD says: but, it is also true that the story is so incredible, that it leaves an impression

[3:08:40 PM] nsy says: sadly, they don't teach much Philosophy in Catholic School.

[3:12:27 PM] nsy says: and college was all about Math for the CoSci stuff. I was robbed.

[3:26:23 PM] nsy says: although my calculus book briefly mentioned Leibniz

[3:26:50 PM] nsy says: and some other computer science books

[3:30:08 PM] nsy says: but his mother was a schmuck

[3:30:21 PM] nsy says: Catherina Schmuck

[3:31:05 PM] pD says: you enjoyed that one didn't you

[3:31:16 PM] pD says: i think it is time for you to repent

[3:31:26 PM] pD says: for taking that much pleasure in somebody's name

[3:33:43 PM] nsy says: (sinister snickering) http://www.gardenmob.com/snidely-whiplash.jpg

[3:38:58 PM] nsy says: i was actually looking for the mutely laugh: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6762466046961647838&q=muttley+laugh&total=5&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

[3:39:19 PM] nsy says: can you tell i was raised by a pack of wild cartoons?

[3:41:03 PM] pD says: love cartoons

[3:41:11 PM] pD says: bugs bunny

[3:41:23 PM] pD says: i also like donald duck

[3:47:41 PM] nsy says: do you like ugly dogs? http://samugliestdog.com/

[3:48:27 PM] pD says: hmm...

[3:48:39 PM] pD says: i am not a pet person for practical reasons

[3:48:46 PM] pD says: they will never grow up and make money for me

[3:48:54 PM] pD says: but, are the ugly dogs cartoons?

[3:49:19 PM] pD says: i do not know if Sam looks "ugly"

[3:49:24 PM] pD says: but he sure is a bit scary

[3:49:36 PM] nsy says: i think i would like ugly dogs if they were cartoons, but otherwise, i'm not a huge fan.

[3:50:03 PM] pD says: oh, i also like the two squirrels that were always picking on Donald Duck

[3:50:07 PM] pD says: whatever they names are

[3:50:38 PM] nsy says: oh yah - i forgot about them... they were really cool.

[3:50:59 PM] pD says: http://www.concordantia.com/sfm/Images/Squirrel.png

[3:51:46 PM] pD says: now, here is a squirrel worth having as a pet: http://www.ttgnet.com/images/armed-squirrel.jpg

[3:54:18 PM] nsy says: yeah - thats no chip'n' dale squirrel

[4:09:33 PM] nsy says: http://www.squirrels.org/video.html

[4:14:18 PM] nsy says: ok, this one's better http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7867532138386013952&q=squirrel+obstacle+course&total=4&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[4:25:54 PM] pD added ANia to this chat

[4:26:05 PM] pD says: i would like to welcome today's guest

[4:26:07 PM] pD says: Ania

[4:26:17 PM] pD says: she was wondering what NSA Chatters is about

[4:26:39 PM] pD says: and, basically, it is about a bunch of people at work who has nothing better to do and cannot exactly leave to goof off

[4:26:49 PM] pD says: fair explanation, nsy?

[4:27:05 PM] nsy says: yay! a goof-off guest!

[4:27:10 PM] ANia says: hehe

[4:27:12 PM] ANia says: :)

[4:27:35 PM] pD says: so what kind of gift are you looking to buy?

[4:27:55 PM] nsy says: did you give her the URL for the old chats?

[4:28:15 PM] pD says: http://nsa-chatters.blogspot.com/

[4:28:31 PM] ANia says: yea, i got this address

[4:28:39 PM] ANia says: should i create a character there?

[4:29:01 PM] ANia says: i mean ID

[4:29:03 PM] pD says: creating a character (avatar?)

[4:29:09 PM] pD says: you gamers are too much

[4:29:14 PM] nsy says: maybe we should have protected her from the insanity. she may run screaming and never return. hmm...

[4:29:19 PM] pD speaking for self

[4:29:33 PM] pD says: we just chat on random topics

[4:29:44 PM] pD says: hey, there is a first for everything

[4:29:57 PM] ANia says: true

[4:29:57 PM] nsy says: and I interrupt pD a lot to see if steam will come out of his ears.

[4:30:04 PM] pD says: i am setting up a pool on how long before Ania realizes this is a complete scam

[4:30:29 PM] pD thinking... but, it is our scam

[4:30:33 PM] nsy says: what are the odds on 30 seconds?

[4:30:45 PM] pD says: 1:5000

[4:30:57 PM] pD says: actually, you missed it already

[4:31:05 PM] nsy says: ok, i'll bet 10 cents

[4:31:20 PM] pD says: Ania was invited on 4:25:54

[4:31:22 PM] nsy says: aaw, dang. i'm always late tot he tea party

[4:31:24 PM] pD says: hmm

[4:31:30 PM] pD says: the force is strong with this one

[4:31:47 PM] pD says: (heavy breathing)

[4:31:52 PM] ANia says: hehe

[4:31:53 PM] pD speaking from the dark side

[4:32:13 PM] nsy says: darth pD is back! RUN!!!

[4:33:01 PM] ANia says: my boyfriend was darth vader for the halloween

[4:33:03 PM] pD says: too late, i have your throat

[4:33:18 PM] pD says: you non-believer

[4:33:26 PM] pD as an aside

[4:33:28 PM] nsy says: GGARRG

[4:33:35 PM] pD says: so, Ania this is what we do in this IM/blog thing

[4:33:45 PM] pD says: does that answer your question?

[4:33:51 PM] ANia says: i see

[4:33:55 PM] ANia says: yes, it does

[4:33:57 PM] ANia says: :)

[4:34:06 PM] nsy says: do you have pictures of your boyfriend as Vader?

[4:34:14 PM] ANia says: let me thing

[4:34:19 PM] ANia says: think

[4:34:23 PM] ANia says: yes

[4:35:06 PM] ANia says: do you wanna see him?

[4:35:19 PM] pD begging to be graced

[4:35:39 PM] ANia sent file "[deleted]" to members of this chat

[4:35:41 PM] pD says: btw, Lucas film is soliciting Starwar theme short films: http://nsa-chatters.blogspot.com/2007/06/115345-am-pd-says-hi-folks-i-would-like.html

[4:36:19 PM] pD says: we should come up with a script and i have already downloaded the various sound effects that we can use

[4:36:43 PM] nsy says: now you're talking!

[4:37:43 PM] nsy says: whoa! sweet costume!

[4:37:44 PM] pD says: let's make that an agenda item for tomorrow

[4:38:00 PM] pD says: hey, how come i am still downloading

[4:38:03 PM] ANia says: yea, it is cool costume

[4:38:03 PM] pD says: 35% complete

[4:38:13 PM] pD says: somebody is holding out on the bandwidth on me

[4:38:21 PM] nsy says: mwahahahahaha

[4:38:22 PM] ANia says: but i had a hard time to figured out my costume

[4:38:36 PM] pD says: yeah, what did you have?

[4:38:44 PM] ANia says: i ended up being a nurse, Darth Vader private nurse

[4:39:06 PM] ANia says: in case he had problems with breathing

[4:39:12 PM] nsy says: LOL

[4:39:14 PM] pD not saying anything un-PC

[4:39:39 PM] pD says: anyone wants to know my costume

[4:39:46 PM] ANia says: sure

[4:39:49 PM] pD says: 65% complete

[4:39:52 PM] pD says: ay...

[4:40:06 PM] pD says: i am, was and probably will always be, the invisible man

[4:41:03 PM] nsy says: did you hear something?

[4:41:10 PM] pD says: ?

[4:41:12 PM] ANia says: ?

[4:41:14 PM] nsy says: must have been the wind

[4:41:25 PM] nsy says: or... the invisible man!

[4:41:33 PM] ANia says: heheh

[4:41:34 PM] pD says: hahah!

[4:41:50 PM] pD says: oh, that also reminds of a dirty joke

[4:41:57 PM] pD says: anyway, i can tell you tomorrow

[4:42:26 PM] pD says: on second thought

[4:42:32 PM] pD says: it cannot be the invisible man

[4:42:44 PM] ANia says: why not?

[4:42:52 PM] pD says: because part of his power is the ability to do nothing - part of

[4:42:58 PM] pD says: staying "invisible"

[4:43:05 PM] pD says: so, he ain't going to create no wind

[4:43:30 PM] pD says: finally finished the download

[4:44:01 PM] pD says: i am in love with your boyfriend

[4:44:05 PM] ANia says: hehe

[4:44:06 PM] pD says: that is just so cool

[4:44:34 PM] ANia says: yea, it is a cool costume

[4:45:29 PM] pD says: hey, how about doing a script where a game tester ends up having darth vader actually coming out of the game

[4:45:30 PM] ANia says: and he has awesome light saber

[4:46:00 PM] nsy says: triumph ruined darth costumes for me. so sad. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6144096400228908907&q=triumph+star+wars&total=93&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[4:46:30 PM] pD says: sort like the purple rose of Cairo: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089853/

[4:46:48 PM] ANia says: nice

[4:46:55 PM] pD says: or, sigh, the last action hero: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107362/

[4:47:32 PM] pD says: right, and darth vader come out of the game because his saber was jammed and he needs the game tester to fix it

[4:48:27 PM] pD says: so, the game tester makes him go through a series of goofy stuff like jumping on one leg while saying "dark side is good"

[4:48:41 PM] ANia says: :)

[4:49:07 PM] ANia says: nsy, that video is awesome

[4:49:14 PM] nsy says: hahaahaaa - that sounds perfect! see you already have the script under way

[4:49:14 PM] ANia says: (rofl)

[4:50:59 PM] pD says: oh, here is a good one, make vader give "air massage" using the force

[4:51:24 PM] nsy says: mwahahaha

[4:54:20 PM] pD says: as a matter of a fact...

[4:54:38 PM] pD says: we can do a series of Jedi services

[4:54:42 PM] pD says: air massage comes to mind

[4:54:57 PM] pD says: what other stuff do you think they can do - something mundane and domestic

[4:55:21 PM] pD says: the script could be a series about how the game tester becomes a mastermind behind "Jedis on Call"

[4:55:36 PM] pD says: sort of mistreating and exploiting the Jedis for their force

[4:55:43 PM] ANia says: wow, you are very creative

[4:55:48 PM] nsy says: (snicker) hmm...

[4:56:19 PM] pD says: not sure about creative but years of studying has done serious damanage to my psyche

[4:56:30 PM] ANia says: heh

[4:56:36 PM] nsy says: lifting the couch cushions to look for change, then taking the (insert name of bipedal white mammal) to the drive-through for a burger

[4:56:51 PM] nsy says: damanage - i like that

[4:56:54 PM] pD says: say, we can say this is the real pre-qual [sic] to the original

[4:57:06 PM] pD says: so, it was not so much that anikan fell to the dark side

[4:57:06 PM] nsy says: heheh - i think thats been done

[4:57:14 PM] pD says: oh, so sad

[4:57:33 PM] pD says: somebody was already selling Jedi services for domestic help?

[4:57:54 PM] nsy says: it aint easy being jedi

[4:58:07 PM] pD says: okay, guys, i am going into a conference call,

[4:58:10 PM] pD says: brb

[4:58:15 PM] nsy says: l8r

[4:58:20 PM] ANia says: ok

[4:58:33 PM] ANia says: i am gonna make a dinner

[4:58:35 PM] ANia says: brb

[4:59:07 PM] pD says: do you think we have overwhelmed Ania, nsy?

[5:00:13 PM] nsy says: for now. i think once she gets comfortable, she will put us in or place.

[5:00:25 PM] pD says: you know

[5:00:30 PM] pD says: i am always glad

[5:00:37 PM] pD with a glint in my eye

[5:00:51 PM] pD says: to help somebody get ready for the real life in the office

[5:01:12 PM] nsy says: ah, yes

[5:01:23 PM] nsy with misty eyes

[5:01:32 PM] nsy says: real life

[5:05:14 PM] ANia says: oh, I am not overwhelmed, I am just not that familiar with Star Wars, I have seen all the episode but only once

[5:05:15 PM] ANia says: :)

[5:06:19 PM] nsy says: i'm more of a lord of the rings geek, really

[5:06:22 PM] nsy says: :)

[5:06:46 PM] nsy says: i'm surprised you get a chance to watch anything with all the schoolwork you have

[5:07:53 PM] ANia says: oh, that was last summer

[5:08:02 PM] ANia says: we spend all weekend watching star wars

[5:08:16 PM] ANia says: my boyfriend could not believe that i have not seen it

[5:08:22 PM] ANia says: so he made me watch it

[5:08:28 PM] ANia says: but it was fun!

[5:08:46 PM] nsy says: hahah - that is quite a movie marathon!

[5:10:28 PM] ANia says: yea,

[5:13:39 PM] pD says: all 6?

[5:13:45 PM] ANia says: yes

[5:13:53 PM] pD says: you must really love him

[5:13:58 PM] ANia says: hehe

[5:14:19 PM] ANia says: yea, i do

[5:14:24 PM] ANia says: but it was fun

[5:17:48 PM] pD says: long time ago before George Lukas decided to ruin the original star wars

[5:17:56 PM] pD says: there was a national run for all three of the original

[5:18:12 PM] pD says: a bunch of friend and I went into the theater to watch the films

[5:19:20 PM] pD says: that built a lot of characters

[6:09:57 PM] pD says: can i post this?

[6:10:23 PM] nsy says: have at it!

[6:10:38 PM] pD says: ania?

[6:10:51 PM] ANia says: yes

[6:10:53 PM] ANia says: ?

[6:11:09 PM] pD says: post to NSA Chatters

[6:11:14 PM] ANia says: sure

[6:27:00 PM] pD says: p.s. can I post the darth vader pix?

[6:27:02 PM] pD says: pls!

[6:28:06 PM] ANia says: hm

[6:28:16 PM] pD says: pls!

[6:28:46 PM] ANia says: i do know, i should ask him first

[6:29:01 PM] ANia says: but i guess no one would now that it is him

[6:29:02 PM] ANia says: sure

[6:29:05 PM] ANia says: you can post it

[6:29:19 PM] pD says: the force is strong with this one...

[6:29:24 PM] pD says: thank you

[6:29:40 PM] ANia says: just don't tell him

[6:29:45 PM] ANia says: if you ever meet him

[6:29:47 PM] ANia says: :P

[6:30:04 PM] pD says: oh, i was hoping that he can be a guest for one of these IM sessions!

[6:30:11 PM] nsy says: meet who? ;-p

[6:30:22 PM] ANia says: my bfriend

[6:30:26 PM] pD says: Ania's personal darth vader

[6:30:29 PM] ANia says: heh

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