no spell check - spiderman - chairman mao - gay senator - singing politician - benevolent illustrious boss - labor day weekend - the history lesson -

[10:48:29 AM] pD says: anybody home?

[10:49:10 AM] AE says: nope

[10:49:18 AM] AE says: oh... wait... yes!

[10:49:26 AM] pD says: my bad

[10:50:02 AM] nsy says: hullo?

[10:50:44 AM] pD says: should we declare today as a no spell cehck day?

[10:50:54 AM] pD says: could be an interesting exercise

[10:51:14 AM] AE says: (that's "splel cehck"

[10:51:16 AM] AE says: )

[10:51:31 AM] pD is having anotehr brilliant insight (clap)

[10:51:45 AM] pD says: hahahah! indeed, let's see how bad it can get

[10:52:19 AM] pD says: btw, does anyone want to be Peter Parker? “Spiderman suit” may be on the way - http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070829_adhesive.htm

[10:52:22 AM] AE says: no, that's the official mispelling of 'spell checking'. if you're gonna misspell it... get it right.

[10:53:30 AM] pD says: AE, don't be a killjoy - as chairman mao once said, let a thousand flower bloom - diversity is good

[10:54:01 AM] pD says: (of course, it turns out that was a trick for mao to find all of his enemies so he can easily deal with them. But, that is a differnt story)

[10:54:40 AM] AE says: so let all the weeds bloom so you can mow them down?

[10:54:48 AM] AE says: or "mao" them down?

[10:55:04 AM] pD says: precisely...

[10:55:07 AM] AE says: cool link! It's amazing how much we learn from nature!

[10:55:26 AM] pD says: btw, what is the story on the gay republican senator - do we care?

[10:55:45 AM] pD says: the bigger question for me is that why does he still need to do his busienss in an airport bathroom?

[10:55:51 AM] AE says: um... no. sorry, but being alt-sexual in this day and age is very blase

[10:56:05 AM] pD says: aren't there airport hotels that he can use?

[10:56:09 AM] AE says: and that he's a perverted replublican.. kind of redundant.

[10:56:15 AM] pD says: so, is he "old school"?

[10:56:20 AM] AE says: where's the fun in that?

[10:56:31 AM] AE says: don't know.

[11:00:13 AM] pD says: btw, what is his name, craig something?

[11:09:52 AM] AE says: uh Larry I think. From Idaho

[11:10:02 AM] AE says: Oh... Larry Craig. that' the dude

[11:10:52 AM] pD says: we wre both right!

[11:10:55 AM] pD says: talk about win-win

[11:11:07 AM] pD says: nsy, got any good pix of larry and craig?

[11:16:59 AM] nsy says: http://www.cowboyrudy.com/rudy8_lcraigcopy.jpg

[11:17:47 AM] nsy says: http://webpages.charter.net/micah/aud/barbershop.jpg

[11:28:48 AM] pD says: was that john ashcroft and trent lott singing?

[11:29:49 AM] pD says: what is with politicians singing? didn't orrin hatch do a CD or something?

[3:31:33 PM] pD says: knock, knock

[3:32:28 PM] nsy says: who's there?

[3:32:36 PM] AE says: banana

[3:32:49 PM] pD says: banana who?

[3:33:10 PM] pD says: (just thought it was awfully quiet)

[3:33:37 PM] pD says: just got back from the airport picking up benevelent illustrious boss (BIB) who was away on business

[3:34:56 PM] AE says: Welcome back B I B!

[3:35:08 PM] AE says: I have to go to a birthday party on the beach.

[3:35:10 PM] AE says: poor me.

[3:35:22 PM] AE says: have a good night all!

[3:36:24 PM] pD says:

[3:37:03 PM] pD says: btw, going to oregon tomorrow for a short R&R. talk with you next week, AE

[3:37:55 PM] pD says: got any plan for the labor day weekend, nsy?

[3:39:29 PM] nsy says: shameless plug - mike's band (the history lesson) is playing at the parkside in san francisco saturday, and we are helping his cousin pick up some furniture sunday, and relaxing monday.

[3:39:40 PM] nsy says: are you goign to see shakespeare in oregon?

[3:40:28 PM] pD says: cool! you should annoucne the history lesson's performance more often - i am all for shameless plugs

[3:40:40 PM] pD says: is there a website? what is the location and time?

[3:41:19 PM] pD says: not going to see shakespeare. little boss has little patience for the "to be or not to be" crowd - not enough blinking stuff

[3:41:43 PM] nsy says: great! http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=71844567

[3:41:45 PM] pD says: A friend has a wineyard in Oregon, so we will be doing the wine country thing. Generally just taking it very easy

[3:41:49 PM] nsy says: http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.showDetails&Band_Show_ID=16341712&friendid=71844567

[3:41:57 PM] nsy says: sounds nice

[3:42:21 PM] nsy says: that was what i was hoping to do (relax), but maybe next weekend

[3:43:18 PM] pD says: for those too lazy to click on the link:

[3:43:19 PM] pD says: the history lesson

September, 1 2007 at Thee Parkside

Not Available , San Francisco, CA,

Cost : FREE

FREE HAPPY HOUR ROCK SHOW @ thee PARKSIDE. with The Doormats, Days Into Years, In the Flat Field.

[3:43:24 PM] nsy says: http://www.theeparkside.com/

[3:43:40 PM] pD says: btw, what time is the gig, need more info

[3:44:55 PM] nsy says: yah- whats up with that? its an afternoon show with a BBQ - all ages. i think it starts at 3, but i''l check

[3:45:17 PM] nsy says: myspace says 5pm

[3:47:53 PM] nsy says: depth charge revolt is santa cruz's best kept secret: http://www.myspace.com/depthchargerevolt

[4:09:44 PM] pD says: is mike involved with depth charge revolt? if not, they cannot be taht good...

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NSA Chatters crew

chairman mao - laptop - lama - saviors - omnipotent - vaccum tubes - turntables - analog music - live music - LP's - veggie chili - wiki

[9:39:17 AM] pD says: howdy, howdy!

[9:39:32 AM] pD says: what is going on today?

[9:40:00 AM] nsy says: hey PD! thanks for the booga-man!

[9:40:18 AM] pD says: hahahah! i have already forgotten about it. glad you like it

[9:40:30 AM] pD says: (with side glance)

[9:41:03 AM] nsy says: yes, perfectly placed - much enjoyment!

[9:41:20 AM] pD says: btw, hope you got my message about chair mao and leninade

[9:41:33 AM] pD says: cannot get the files deleted after two reboots, weird

[9:41:54 AM] nsy says: no, haven't seen your message yet

[9:42:09 AM] pD says: should be from my other account

[9:42:24 AM] nsy says: an email?

[9:42:33 AM] pD says: the laptop is still on, assuming you have not taken it off line yet

[9:42:36 AM] pD says: from skype

[9:42:55 AM] pD says: anyway, basically, i was not able to delete the leninade and mao t-shirt pix from my laptop

[9:43:04 AM] pD says: so, i am wondering if you can do your magic

[9:43:14 AM] pD says: btw, the other post-it has my id/pw into the laptop

[9:43:16 AM] nsy says: sure - NP

[9:43:26 AM] pD says: let me know if you have any question

[9:43:31 AM] nsy says: ok, will do

[10:06:49 AM] pD says: is AE back?

[10:06:53 AM] pD says: how did the run go?

[10:09:06 AM] nsy says: yep, they're all back and the run went well according to G. AE worked this morning, and is taking the rest of the day off to spend with his family. they beat their top time by about 20 minutes

[10:09:18 AM] nsy says: G has some good pictures

[10:09:38 AM] pD says: all thanks to AE, i assume, since he is the new addition to the team

[10:10:19 AM] pD says: cool, glad to know that all went well. and with so many people exerting so much effort over the weekend, i feel doubly entitled to take it easy - to maintain the cosmic karmic balance, mind you

[10:10:23 AM] nsy says: he earned a new nickname - the dalai lama - due to his graceful zen-like demeanor, yet still kicking butt

[10:10:58 AM] nsy says: i'm just going to call him "lama"

[10:11:56 AM] pD says: lama? Scientific name for the genus containing llamas, alpacas, guanacos, and vicunas

[10:21:34 AM] nsy says: exactly

[10:42:41 AM] pD says: this is cool! Out-of-body experience recreated

Near-death events have triggered out-of-body experiences

Experts have found a way to trigger an out-of-body experience in volunteers

[10:42:47 AM] pD says: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6960612.stm

[10:47:07 AM] nsy says: wow, interesting

[10:49:21 AM] nsy says: that tricky brain of ours.

[10:49:37 AM] pD says: having been appointed a savior by your guys a while back, i have been diligently honing my skills - gotta get your money worth, ya know

[10:51:54 AM] nsy says: "my guys" - i like that

[10:52:22 AM] pD says: hmm... typing too fast again, gets you every time

[10:52:35 AM] nsy says: and i definitely want my money's worth. so thanks for figuring that one out. video games will only get better now.

[10:54:04 AM] pD says: video game is asking for a lot - this savior is kind of low tech that way - cannot get his own signal booster working...

[10:54:46 AM] nsy says: heh. maybe it was overwhelmed by your omnipotence.

[10:56:34 AM] nsy says: http://www.tjmahaffey.com/full/omnipotent.jpg

[10:56:37 AM] pD says: yeah, the thought did cross my mind, but was dismissed since it was working fine before

[10:58:59 AM] nsy says: stumbled upon this searching for omnipotent: http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?m=200604

[1:29:21 PM] pD says: you know the beauty of being at home when there is nobody around - including neighbors - is that you get to blast music

[1:29:33 PM] pD says: ah, just until my vacuum tubes get warmed up properly!

[1:30:14 PM] nsy says: vacuum tubes in your stereo? or are you playing guitar through an amplifier?

[1:30:29 PM] pD says: tubes in stereo

[1:30:45 PM] pD says: classical guitars are, by definition, unplugged

[1:31:12 PM] pD says: which, in a way, is unfortunate - because amplification brings a very different dimension to the music making

[1:32:30 PM] nsy says: ooh - i would love to have a tube stereo! they just don't make things like they used to...

[1:33:07 PM] pD says: oh, you can buy them brand new - tube stereos. actually, tubes are making a come back.

[1:33:25 PM] nsy says: nice!

[1:35:06 PM] pD says: tubes are beautiful for LP's. maybe i should fire up my turntable too

[1:36:23 PM] pD says: this is what i have: http://www.ear-usa.com/earproducts.htm

[1:39:11 PM] nsy says: supashweet!

[1:39:42 PM] pD says: do you listen to LP's? i saw you had a Beatles album on your desk a while back

[1:39:47 PM] nsy says: i need this turntable: http://www.ear-usa.com/ear_sources.htm

[1:42:01 PM] pD says: cool! did not know that he makes turntables now

[1:43:00 PM] pD says: i think the most interesting turntable that i have seen is air driven which eliminates all the vibration from the drive. never seen it in live - only read about it. supposed the darn thing weights in at 2 tones - i think you need an enforced floor for that sucker

[1:45:23 PM] nsy says: i have a limited collection of LPs. my turntable needle broke about 12 years ago during a move, and I never found another needle for the model. i've been putting off buying another one because my Mom has a nice old Magnavox she said I can have, but I didn't want to pick it up until I own my own home and won’t be moving for a while.

[1:45:26 PM] pD says: ah, here it is: pretty darn good review, Mike Fremer is the dean/god of analog for many: http://www.stereophile.com/analogsourcereviews/258/index.html

[1:45:33 PM] nsy says: wow, 2 tons! incredible!

[1:49:33 PM] nsy says: "We love those LPs, and we know they can sound good—certainly better than CDs—but can a stone dragged through a vinyl drainage ditch ever sound $73,750 worth of good?"

[1:49:39 PM] nsy says: no way - ever

[1:52:37 PM] pD says: hahah! i beg to differ

[1:53:04 PM] pD says: CD suffers the sampling limitation as well as the inability to store sound in the extremes

[1:53:50 PM] pD says: so, in a chamber/jazz setting, the resolution of spatial relationship is much more clearly delineated - in other words, if you close your eyes, you can hear how far each instrument is from each other

[1:54:41 PM] pD says: and, in the orchestral/operatic context, when everything and everyone is going at full blast - CD sounds like there is a governor that throttles back the high and low ranges

[1:55:13 PM] pD says: CD is great, i got lots of them. but, it is great for reasons different from LP's

[1:55:29 PM] pD says: /pD is an analog dork

[1:55:37 PM] pD is an analog dork

[1:56:18 PM] nsy says: I can't think of any way that even the best listening experience - even live, with my favorite players playing my favorite piece just for me could ever be worth 73k, unless i was filthy stinking rich and that was chump change to me - but right now - its definitely not.

[1:56:54 PM] pD says: on that point, i concur.

[1:57:28 PM] nsy says: music is my church, but finding god is cheaper

[1:57:51 PM] pD says: having said that though, if you think of the number of concerts, flights, and hotels that you would have to endure - 73K amortized over X years, may not be as outrageous as it sounds initially

[1:58:16 PM] pD says: but, it is true that people are known to go over board with stereo equipments

[1:58:25 PM] nsy says: live music is always better than recorded for me - its the energy

[1:59:03 PM] pD says: when i was talking with a dealer, he told me that there are two types of stereo people - one who buys the gear to listen to music and those who buy the gear for the gear

[1:59:12 PM] pD says: and, there are a lot of gear heads

[1:59:55 PM] pD says: on the live music part - i agree theoretically. i use to have season tickets and as much as i hate some of the performances, i suffer through them

[2:00:06 PM] pD says: it builds character and i need to show my support

[2:00:48 PM] pD says: but, the reality is that when it becomes impossible to travel - with domestic diaper duties - stereo gear becomes a nice second best

[2:01:31 PM] nsy says: ok, i'll give you that. but if i was into gear, i'd go big and gaudy: http://www.stpaulsesquimalt.com/organ.html

[2:01:45 PM] pD says: speaking of energy, if the performance sucks, it also drains the energy big time - there are several times, i have been known to beat a hasty retreat when the music gets unbearable

[2:01:47 PM] nsy says: i guess that’s not really gear, but you get my drift.

[2:02:20 PM] nsy says: well, i never thought of the loss of energy, but i've definitely felt that too

[2:02:27 PM] pD says: oh, that is not the half of it on gears

[2:02:55 PM] pD says: if you ever hear some of them talk about the cables and interconnects that they use, it can be quite hilarious

[2:04:50 PM] nsy says: as with any whateverophile, i suppose

[2:06:14 PM] nsy says: i want to have chills and goosebumps for my hard-earned cash, dammit. now, if that player lasts a lifetime, and I get chills every time i listen to it, but i wouldn’t with a cheaper one, then it might be worth it. but very doubtful.

[2:06:56 PM] pD says: what kind of LP's do you have?

[2:07:19 PM] pD says: i was given a batch of pop LP's from the 80's. do not know what to do with them

[2:07:50 PM] pD says: i am a decidedly jazz, classical, and opera kind of a person. i enjoy my share of pop - but there are a lot...

[2:07:54 PM] nsy says: not very good ones. yep - pretty much 80's mod and classic rock. nothing chill-worthy.

[2:09:01 PM] nsy says: i'm not a collector until i get my new turntable. and then, i'm all about blues, jazz and bop

[2:09:10 PM] nsy says: of course, classical.

[2:09:54 PM] nsy says: there's a record store downtown SC that might buy the batch. i've been thinking of trading mine.

[2:15:31 PM] pD says: cool! what is it called? let me know if you enjoy doing business with them, some of these stores can be a bit suspicious in their dealings...

[2:22:25 PM] nsy says: they did so well in the antique shop basement they recently moved downtown. http://www.metamusiconline.com/ http://sanfrancisco.tribe.net/recommendation/Metamusic-Records/santa-cruz-sf-ca/3fff1d01-d79b-4627-8309-e9ff1b6f656b

[2:27:36 PM] nsy says: grabbing food - back soon...

[2:52:36 PM] nsy says: mmm, vegetarian chili.

[2:53:33 PM] pD says: should go well with veggie dog

[2:53:48 PM] nsy says: definitely

[2:54:05 PM] nsy says: but you need real cheese as far as i'm concerned

[2:57:27 PM] nsy says: ...

[2:57:48 PM] pD says: what is fake cheese? made from petroleum?

[2:58:05 PM] pD says: wasn't there an urban legend about how pizza hut is using edible plastic..

[2:58:37 PM] nsy says: so quiet here today with you and AE out. i keep expecting to see you in the corner there. oh well.. i'll eat my sammich on your laptop as a protest.

[2:58:54 PM] nsy says: they make it out of soy - like everything else vegan.

[2:59:25 PM] pD says: ah, soy cheese, you are right, that thing don't fly with me

[3:00:06 PM] nsy says: its actually not bad on sandwiches, but it doesn't melt right

[3:00:07 PM] pD says: you are too late when it comes to eating on the laptop, i have done most of the damage

[3:00:26 PM] pD says: wait, that was my keyboard. the laptop should be in decent shape, save for a few tea spills

[3:00:36 PM] nsy says: true. i guess its a symbolic gesture.

[3:00:37 PM] pD says: btw, what are they gonna do with those old laptops?

[3:01:08 PM] nsy says: who knows. i don't understand why they don't sell it to you for cheap.

[3:01:21 PM] pD says: if they are going to be thrown out, can you reserve mine? i need a wifi ready laptop that i can use to surf the net in front of the stereo.

[3:01:31 PM] nsy says: sure

[3:01:35 PM] pD says: i only have a desktop right now and the stereo listening thing is much diminished...

[3:01:36 PM] pD says: thanks

[3:02:42 PM] pD says: since I have my own XP OS, I can wipe things out pretty clean. if there is any old ones that is wifi ready, i would be interested. getting my old laptop is just mostly sentimental value - all the stuff we have been through together... :)!

[3:05:43 PM] nsy says: i doubt they'll throw them away, but i'll keep my ears open and my eyes peeled.

[3:06:32 PM] nsy says: they'll probably try to foist them onto some new lackey grunts when we get them

[3:08:11 PM] nsy says: yours was going to go to a new sales person, but i talked them out of it

[3:12:01 PM] pD says: yeah, that is silly to give people old laptops that is clearly crawling - mine crashes a few times a week. nothing major, but it is sure annoying...

[3:15:32 PM] nsy says: yeah - its hard to come to terms with the fact that what might have seemed like a great deal at the time, and ideal for a mobile sales force - was simply not able to keep up with the speed at which applications grow and hog up cpu and ram.

[3:16:12 PM] nsy says: you almost have to incorporate the cost of a new computer every 1-2 years in with the cost of employing comeone

[3:16:20 PM] nsy says: someone

[3:17:36 PM] pD says: and, that is assuming that that somebody is competent in handling a laptop, not breaking it with or without a dog...

[3:18:49 PM] nsy says: and the fact that we don’t; have any rules, or centrally managed systems, or IT really, its just a recipe for PC death.

[3:19:16 PM] nsy says: or at least illness

[3:19:47 PM] nsy says: heh. nice work-in with the dog comment.

[3:21:06 PM] nsy says: i don’t know how IT people stay sane. it drives me nuts. i don’t have that much patience, or self-loathing. whichever is the preferred IT job requirement.

[3:21:35 PM] pD says: low self-esteem...

[3:23:59 PM] nsy says: masochists

[3:25:38 PM] nsy says: oh, wow, i just remembered this movie i was going to tell you about... "brother from another planet" - great social commentary - absolutely priceless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brother_from_Another_Planet

[4:09:40 PM] pD says: fine!

[4:09:43 PM] pD says: another film onto the list

[4:10:20 PM] pD says: sounds like fun - it is a pretty heavy subject to pull off, look forward to seeing it

[4:11:17 PM] pD says: i am currently watching volver by almodovar. about half way through - there is a touch of magic realism to it. quite sympathetic - unlike the in-your-face type of story in his prior films

[4:11:41 PM] pD says: my favorite remains women on the verge of nervous breakdown - it is hysterical

[4:12:00 PM] pD says: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0441909/

[4:12:47 PM] pD says:

[4:13:31 PM] nsy says: yeah, that’s on my list. i enjoyed "talk to her"

[4:16:10 PM] nsy says: i haven't seen any of his others - i'll have to see the "nervous breakdown" one

[4:19:41 PM] pD says: this is a clip in youtube, i thought it captured the sense of breathless wonderment that Almodovar exhibits that attracted me to his work in the first place.

[4:19:47 PM] pD says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu07LH81cok

[4:19:53 PM] pD says:

[4:21:51 PM] nsy says: excellent! I love it. another one for the list

[4:23:08 PM] nsy says: i finally saw ma vie en rose - good stuff. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119590/

[4:26:56 PM] pD says: cool stuff, adding to my list too

[4:33:28 PM] pD says: btw, just came up with the ultimate NSA Chatters idea

[4:33:34 PM] pD says: wanna know, wanna know

[4:33:47 PM] pD says: we should get an entry into Wiki...

[4:34:01 PM] pD is basking in his own brilliance

[4:34:15 PM] pD says: do you know how to do that? make an entry into wiki?

[4:34:35 PM] nsy says: oooh. hm...

[4:35:39 PM] pD says: ok, will continue tomorrow, i am signing off. need to get ready to pick up the little boss

[4:35:55 PM] pD says: ciao

[4:37:20 PM] nsy says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Who_writes_Wikipedia

[4:37:23 PM] nsy says: bye

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NSA Chatters crew

chairman mao - Lenin - short timer - resignation - benevolent illustrious boss - lunch - signal booster - linksys - LASIK - porn as a technology drive

[8/22/2007 10:01:20 AM] pD says: howdy, everyone

[8/22/2007 10:01:42 AM] pD says: nsy, did you have a chance to offload those chairman mao and leninade pix?

[8/22/2007 11:20:56 AM] nsy says: not yet, sorry. Does anyone know how to move files from the PDA to the PC? I can't email out from my PDA since we switched to google mail because my PDA won't allow me to specify an outbound port. i have a USB cable, so I probably just need to specify a new connection - just haven't had time since yesterday.

[8/22/2007 11:22:15 AM] pD says: whenever you have a chance. it is not urgent - but it sure was cool!

[8/22/2007 11:22:38 AM] pD says: and can make AE jealous for missing out on the comrade action

[8/22/2007 11:24:59 AM] *** pD has changed the chat topic to "official short timer"

***

[8/22/2007 11:25:18 AM] pD says: btw, i have officially tendered my resignation

[8/22/2007 11:25:23 AM] AE says: WHAT?

[8/22/2007 11:25:27 AM] pD says: have not figured out my last day yet

[8/22/2007 11:25:29 AM] nsy says: waaaah!

[8/22/2007 11:25:32 AM] pD says: probably Friday

[8/22/2007 11:25:37 AM] AE says: WHAT?

[8/22/2007 11:25:42 AM] nsy says: agh! thats so soon!

[8/22/2007 11:25:47 AM] AE says: where?

[8/22/2007 11:26:43 AM] pD says: well, the benevolent illustrious boss wants to take a short vacation over labor day, so we decided to shifted it up to miss the crowd

[8/22/2007 11:26:57 AM] pD says: i may come in next week - on an as needed basis

[8/22/2007 11:27:07 AM] pD says: and, i would need a few days to catch up on a lot of personal stuff

[8/22/2007 11:27:20 AM] pD says: my investment is in a bit of a mess right now with the current market volatility

[8/22/2007 11:27:38 AM] pD says: well, i am contemplating several offers, so i have not fully decided.

[8/22/2007 11:27:49 AM] AE says: you will be missed. :(

[8/22/2007 11:28:03 AM] pD says: but, it probably will be another startup who is in desperate need of marketing

[8/22/2007 11:28:15 AM] pD is looking for more pain...

[8/22/2007 11:28:23 AM] pD says: oh, i will miss working with you guys too

[8/22/2007 11:28:37 AM] pD says: but, i hope this does not mean that we cannot continue NSA Chatters

[8/22/2007 11:29:14 AM] nsy says: we definitely have to continue NSA Chatters!

[8/22/2007 11:29:40 AM] pD says: because the world needs all the subversions that it can get

[8/22/2007 11:32:06 AM] AE says: gotta go. Back in a bit.

[8/22/2007 11:34:35 AM] nsy says: yes, we can't deprive the world of this caliber insight

[8/22/2007 11:34:56 AM] nsy says: do you know if you will still be in the area so we can go to lunch?

[8/22/2007 11:55:03 AM] pD says: i will be in this area - if you guys are willing to drive a bit, would love to meet up for lunch and stuff

[8/22/2007 5:57:07 PM] nsy says: we definitely need to continue the lunch tradition.

[8/23/2007 9:41:30 AM] pD says: we will work something out

[8/23/2007 10:11:41 AM] pD says: btw, nsy, are you coming into the PA office today? i think we are heading out for fish tacos

[8/23/2007 10:37:03 AM] nsy says: ooh, fish tacos!

[8/23/2007 11:25:39 AM] pD says: chairman mao pix?

[8/23/2007 11:25:57 AM] pD was known as a bulldog who never gave up in a prior incarnation...

[8/23/2007 11:34:27 AM] nsy says: i guess i have to install activesync on my PC to get the pictures without emailing them... give me a few minutes here.

[8/23/2007 11:48:38 AM] pD says: darn Microsoft!

[8/23/2007 12:08:12 PM] pD says: got a question on my linksys range expander

[8/23/2007 12:08:28 PM] pD says: specifically it was pulled off the plug and chewed on by an one year old

[8/23/2007 12:08:38 PM] pD says: well, actually i do not see any visible damage

[8/23/2007 12:08:48 PM] pD says: but, when it plug it back in, the light does not turn on

[8/23/2007 12:08:57 PM] pD says: i tried to re-set and use the auto configure button

[8/23/2007 12:08:58 PM] pD says: nothing

[8/23/2007 12:09:10 PM] pD says: any suggestion on what i can do to check either it is still working

[8/23/2007 12:09:15 PM] pD says: or i should just buy a new one?

[8/23/2007 1:12:38 PM] nsy says: are you saying there is no power, or are we talking about a different light?

[8/23/2007 1:13:20 PM] pD says: it does not turn on

[8/23/2007 1:13:53 PM] pD says: i do not have a mobile/wifi device to check if it is still functioning just the indicator light not blinking or it is completely kaput

[8/23/2007 1:14:55 PM] nsy says: the power cord could need to be replaced, or the LED might have gone bad. test if its just the light by trying to connect. if nothing, try another power cord.

[8/23/2007 1:15:21 PM] nsy says: why do you need it if you do not have any wifi devices?

[8/23/2007 1:15:31 PM] pD says: since it is a wifi signal booster, what do i connect it to?

[8/23/2007 1:15:51 PM] nsy says: the wireless router

[8/23/2007 1:19:18 PM] nsy says: it would just be used to boost the wireless signal from the source to places the signal might not reach, or might be weaker.

[8/23/2007 1:27:09 PM] nsy says: http://consumerist.com/consumer/wifi/how-to-build-your-own-wifi-signal-booster-252419.php

[8/23/2007 2:56:31 PM] nsy says: ooh, you can stay a night in the bat cave in the buenos aires hilton: http://www.travellady.com/Issues/August05/1803BatCave.htm

[8/23/2007 3:40:42 PM] pD says: are you coming in tomorrow?

[8/23/2007 3:41:08 PM] nsy says: i wasn't planning on it. are you here next week?

[8/23/2007 3:41:21 PM] pD says: tomorrow is my last day in the office

[8/23/2007 3:41:31 PM] pD says: i will be around tomorrow Mon-Wed

[8/23/2007 3:41:36 PM] nsy says: agh! thats too soon!

[8/23/2007 3:41:49 PM] pD says: we will do a little trip with the labor day weekend

[8/23/2007 3:42:37 PM] pD says: btw, i am still confused about the wifi range booster thing, can i come over to talk, or do you want to swing by?

[8/23/2007 3:42:50 PM] nsy says: well, since AE is missing out too, we will all have to go out to lunch - maybe monday the 11th?

[8/23/2007 3:42:55 PM] nsy says: sure come on down!

[8/23/2007 3:43:11 PM] nsy says: or i can come over - really all the same to me

[8/23/2007 3:45:31 PM] nsy says: i would come in, but i'm having lasik at 3:40

[8/23/2007 4:02:12 PM] pD says: nsy, that was a very helpful, at least i do not feel like an idiot

[8/23/2007 4:02:13 PM] pD says: for now

[8/23/2007 4:02:15 PM] pD says: Linksys Wireless - G Range Expander Mod: WRE54G

[8/23/2007 4:03:29 PM] pD says: so, you are getting your eyes fixed tomorrow

[8/23/2007 4:03:32 PM] pD says: that is exciting

[8/23/2007 4:03:39 PM] pD says: one eye or both?

[8/23/2007 4:04:46 PM] nsy says: both at the same time, they have a viewing room so your friends can watch, and you can get video

[8/23/2007 4:05:29 PM] nsy says: http://www.furlongvision.com/

[8/23/2007 4:06:10 PM] nsy says: custom lasik http://www.furlongvision.com/customLASIK.html

[8/23/2007 4:09:59 PM] nsy says: check out appendix G of the user guide here: it says you have a 3 year warranty: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1130267578138&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

[8/23/2007 4:11:44 PM] nsy says: chapter 3 says that the LED will light red when not connected, so it looks like it should be on even when its not working. i'm guessing defect

[8/23/2007 4:38:19 PM] pD says: video of eyes being cut open - that is so cool! You should get it and post it on YouTube - so we can refer to it on this blog

[8/23/2007 4:38:28 PM] pD will never make a good doctor

[8/23/2007 4:42:14 PM] pD sent files "leninade.JPG", "mao.JPG" to members of this chat

[8/23/2007 4:42:35 PM] pD says: AE, btw

[8/23/2007 4:42:43 PM] pD says: this is what you missed by running

[8/23/2007 4:43:00 PM] pD says: chairman mao as a pop symbol and Leninade - another pop symbol

[8/23/2007 4:43:13 PM] pD says: i think (and hope) that they are rolling in their graves furiously

[8/23/2007 4:43:22 PM] pD says: say, maybe we can generate some electricity that way...

[8/23/2007 4:47:52 PM] nsy says: those turned out great! thanks :)

[8/23/2007 5:11:44 PM] pD says: love our NSA Chatters ranking

[8/23/2007 5:12:04 PM] pD says: i think it says more about human nature on the net than the actual content of the net

[8/23/2007 5:13:34 PM] nsy says: LOL! of course it grabs the one topic with the word "porn" in it.

[8/23/2007 5:14:09 PM] pD says: porn and VC, the two deadly combination that has been propelling technology since before the beginning

[8/23/2007 5:14:23 PM] pD says: i think i am heading out

[8/23/2007 5:14:38 PM] pD says: since you will have your Lasik tomorrow, I assume i am on my own

[8/23/2007 5:15:01 PM] pD says: cannot wait to hear about your lasik stories

[8/23/2007 5:15:29 PM] pD says: i will also ping you guys from my personal skype

[8/23/2007 5:15:43 PM] pD says: and we shall continue the conversation yet

[8/23/2007 5:16:17 PM] nsy says: indeed. you will be sorely missed around here. i still can't believe i won’t see you sitting over there. it's already hard enough to make the trip, but now... . (boo hoo!)

[8/23/2007 5:16:35 PM] nsy says: at least we still have lunches and NSA Chatters!`

[8/23/2007 5:16:43 PM] pD says: note to self, draw another booga-man for nsy

[8/23/2007 5:16:52 PM] nsy says: exactly!

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NSA Chatters crew

CD collection - chairman mao - Day of sympathy - dim sum - fan movies - In memory - Lucasfilm - POOPED

[11:53:45 AM] pD says: hi folks, i would like to motion that we make today a day of sympathy in memory of AE's grandma

[11:53:52 AM] pD says: can I get a second for the motion

[11:55:52 AM] nsy says: second :)

[11:56:06 AM] pD says: to make this official

[11:56:19 AM] pD says: all in favor, pls say "ay"

[11:56:24 AM] pD says: ay

[11:57:19 AM] pD has changed the chat topic to "Day of sympathy"

[11:57:49 AM] AE says: when is the anniversary for Operation Overlord?

[11:58:08 AM] nsy says: ay

[11:58:22 AM] AE says: ay.

[11:58:35 AM] pD says: oppose, please say nay

[11:58:39 AM] pD says: hearing none

[11:58:42 AM] pD says: motion carries

[11:59:08 AM] pD says: second order of business

[11:59:14 AM] pD says: i would like to note two things

[11:59:30 AM] pD says: first is that I have added a email subscription service to the NSA Chatters blog

[11:59:36 AM] pD says: it also provides RSS feed

[11:59:50 AM] pD says: but, since i still have not figured out how RSS works, email notificaiotn may be helpful

[12:00:16 PM] pD says: the other busienss is that i have posted the two jolly roger flags onto the blog for voting

[12:00:44 PM] pD says: and, thanks to nsy, I have added a javascript that allows people to vote. It turns out to be eaiser than mannual tollying the results

[12:01:06 PM] pD says: http://nsa-chatters.blogspot.com/

[12:01:41 PM] pD says: this is not meant to be a fair voting scheme. so, I have already casted two votes

[12:01:58 PM] AE says: three cheers for nsy and her non-democratic voting java app!

[12:02:23 PM] nsy says: nice! wii hoo!

[12:03:37 PM] pD doing the one man wave again

[12:04:28 PM] pD says: i would also encouage you to vote as well as inviting others to vote. we want to hear from the masses - unwashed or pristine

[12:10:22 PM] pD says: no cable - no daily show

[12:10:33 PM] AE says: no Comedy Central

[12:11:05 PM] pD says: that's okay, we all have to make trade-off's and i have done my share of cable earlier in life

[1:42:04 PM] pD says: a CD of Chair Maio's songs

[1:42:12 PM] pD says: Mao

[1:42:33 PM] nsy says: i didn't know he was a musician

[1:42:52 PM] pD says: it is a compilation of Mao's praises

[1:43:02 PM] pD says: it is kind of scary, but an interesting momento

[1:43:03 PM] AE says: is this like Shatner's album?

[1:43:18 PM] pD says: oh, it is other people singing priases of the great chairman

[1:43:28 PM] nsy says: ah, i see

[1:43:32 PM] pD says: i do not believe that i have actually listened to the whole CD

[1:43:33 PM] pD says: ever

[1:43:33 PM] AE says: ok. that's too funny.

[1:43:44 PM] pD says: but, i am on a quest to listen to all of my existing CD's.

[1:43:48 PM] pD says: so, here it goes...

[1:44:21 PM] nsy says: good luck

[1:54:06 PM] pD says: these are truely horrible music

[1:54:12 PM] pD says: or, orchastration

[1:54:32 PM] pD says: and, i am not saying it because i do not care for mao

[1:55:13 PM] AE says: devotional music often reflects the true feelings of those performing it.

[2:24:17 PM] AE says: take southern gospel music; that stuff can move you!

[2:27:20 PM] pD says: oh, i love gospel music

[2:27:25 PM] pD says: but, the singers mean it

[2:27:38 PM] pD says: this stuff (the CD) are very perfunctory

[2:28:04 PM] pD says: it would have been great to have a May day parade's live recording of the millions singing Mao's praise

[2:28:25 PM] pD says: misguided, yes, moving, probably, amazing, definitely

[2:28:39 PM] AE says: and of course, very very wierd

[2:28:50 PM] AE says: weird.

[2:28:53 PM] pD says: oh, why

[2:29:13 PM] AE says: of that many singers, how many actually believed the words?

[2:29:17 PM] AE says: how many sang in fear?

[2:30:59 PM] pD says: oh, i don't know, people who show up tends to be pretty devotional

[2:31:31 PM] AE says: really? are they really devoted to a dictator?

[2:31:42 PM] AE says: I guess there were some who were fanatical about Hitler...

[2:31:47 PM] pD says: especially during the cultural revolution, it was a pretty emotional time, Mao was taking them to the promised land

[2:32:02 PM] AE says: are they there yet?

[2:32:21 PM] pD says: i did some freelance work translating historic photos of China for a textbook publisher

[2:32:37 PM] pD says: and, the pictures from the cultural revolution period was pretty awe inspiring

[2:34:19 PM] pD says: promised land? well, it is somewhat of a moving target...

[2:34:52 PM] pD says: but, China is buying 10% of the BlackStone Group, one of the most powerful investment groups in the world

[2:35:27 PM] pD says: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6675453.stm

[2:35:58 PM] pD says: BTW, Y has picked up the first piece of dim sum

[2:36:05 PM] pD GOOOOOOONG

[2:36:32 PM] nsy says: mwahaha

[2:36:47 PM] AE says: ahhah. IT begins!

[2:36:48 PM] nsy says: although - i thought i geard him throw something away...?

[2:36:59 PM] AE says: quick! check the trashcan!

[2:37:05 PM] AE says: before he changes his mind!

[2:37:14 PM] pD says: argh!

[2:37:15 PM] nsy says: i'm guessing it was she shrimp in the plastic bag. bets?

[2:37:32 PM] pD says: what are we betting?

[2:37:36 PM] nsy says: if it was in the box with the other stuff i bet he would've eaten it.

[2:37:52 PM] nsy says: mmm... one vending machine item of the winner's choice

[2:38:11 PM] pD says: you are on

[2:38:30 PM] AE says: ewe. you're as bad as he is. Count me out of that bet.

[2:39:03 PM] pD says: we can bet an organic apricot, if that suits AE better

[2:39:17 PM] AE has changed the chat topic to "International Indigestion"

[2:42:04 PM] AE says: nope. not an apricot eater.

[2:42:25 PM] pD says: i think part of the problem is that the CD I got, by the time I bought it, Mao worshipping was consider more of a touristy curiosity.

[2:42:24 PM] AE says: kinda finicky for a guy with limited food choices...

[2:43:13 PM] nsy says: the vending machine has Mr. Nature unsalted nut and yogurt mix. my personal fave.

[2:43:16 PM] nsy says: ok, i'm going to look...

[2:43:36 PM] pD says: when i was working in China, i was talking with some of the local co-workers and it was interesting listening to how they used to sing the "revolutionaized" Chiense opera and such

[2:43:50 PM] pD says: okay,

[2:43:56 PM] pD says: drum rolls pls

[2:44:06 PM] AE says: so, what did he toss?

[2:44:11 PM] nsy says: it was just the empty box and bag! nothing was missing! just a few crumbs...

[2:44:19 PM] AE says: HO!

[2:44:28 PM] nsy says: we all lose - and we all win :)

[2:44:32 PM] pD says: so, who gets the apricot?

[2:44:39 PM] nsy says: AE

[2:44:42 PM] AE says: yuck!

[2:44:54 PM] nsy says: for being smart enough not to stoop to our level

[2:45:15 PM] nsy says: (like how i roped you into that one, pa?)

[2:45:31 PM] nsy says: or whatever your name is

[2:45:34 PM] pD says: oh, i was actually reaching hard to get to that level

[2:45:36 PM] pD says: my bad

[2:45:47 PM] pD says: pD

[2:45:51 PM] nsy says: tx

[2:45:57 PM] pD says: poly-dense

[2:46:03 PM] nsy says: right!

[2:46:05 PM] pD says: opposite of polymath

[2:46:25 PM] nsy says: what does math mean?

[2:46:52 PM] pD says: oh, i think it was greek for knowledge

[2:47:04 PM] pD says: so, polymath is a person who know several subject matters well

[2:47:08 PM] AE says: it encompases all forms of math.

[2:47:13 PM] pD says: whereas a poly-dense is just a poser

[2:47:13 PM] nsy says: ok, right - tx

[2:47:23 PM] pD posingly

[2:47:28 PM] nsy says: heh

[2:47:31 PM] AE says: poly = parrot

[2:47:36 PM] AE says: and parrots repeat things

[2:47:42 PM] AE says: and numbers often repeat

[2:47:50 PM] AE says: and numbers are used in math

[2:47:53 PM] AE says: so... polymath

[2:48:00 PM] pD says: not alwasy, you can have math without numbers

[2:48:16 PM] AE says: but you can't have a parrot without crackers.

[2:48:36 PM] AE says: cause they're small, and you really need something filling to stuff them with.

[2:48:58 PM] pD says: or, edible green dye

[2:52:23 PM] nsy says: sounds messy

[2:58:02 PM] pD says: blood sausage still taste better if more messy

[3:00:27 PM] pD says: mercyfully, the Mao CD has finished and I must confess that ip ut the earpiece down for the most part so I still ahve not heard through the whole thing.

[3:00:47 PM] pD says: i am a failure...

[3:03:14 PM] AE says: you need to look at why you're doing this thing.

[3:03:27 PM] AE says: why you feel this compulsion to listen to every CD

[3:03:34 PM] pD says: feeling even more of a failure...

[3:03:52 PM] pD says: i just

[3:03:54 PM] pD says: i just

[3:03:55 PM] pD says: just

[3:03:58 PM] pD says: ...

[3:03:58 PM] pD says: sob

[3:04:00 PM] AE says: you're trying to justify

[3:04:02 PM] pD says: ...

[3:04:20 PM] pD says: want to express my feelings for the CD's

[3:04:25 PM] pD says: is that a crime

[3:04:40 PM] AE says: depends on your feelings for them, I guess...

[3:05:23 PM] AE says: we do have a microwave if you feel you need to express your feelings for the CD's in a different fasion...

[3:06:24 PM] pD says: do i want to know what you are suggesting...

[3:11:26 PM] AE says: you've never lived until you've put a CD and pounded it with radiation.

[3:11:48 PM] pD says: sounds like an environmental hazard

[3:12:06 PM] AE says: extremely. microwaves don't like it either.

[3:12:27 PM] pD says: what have those pits ever done to you...

[3:14:22 PM] AE says: well, when I was still impressionable (so, any time really) I was sent a whole bunch of junk CD's by a company I will not name, but who's initials are AOL.

[3:14:40 PM] nsy says: pits? i thought cds had seeds...?

[3:14:43 PM] AE says: I started coming up with creative ways to dispose of them...

[3:15:33 PM] AE says: the best way was to hang them on our fruit trees to keep the birds away.

[3:15:51 PM] AE says: (probably got the pits from the peach tree...)

[3:16:51 PM] pD says: so, you are taking it out on those innocent CD's? I should form "People Opposed to Opportunistic Pits Egregious Degradation"

[3:17:06 PM] pD says: a.k.a. Pooped

[3:19:22 PM] pD says: pits: how CD keeps info is via pits (sunken areas on the surface) which represents the )'s and 1's

[3:19:36 PM] AE says: I can tell, you've sided with the birds...

[3:19:50 PM] AE says: you're after our fruit trees!

[3:20:16 PM] pD says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc#Physical_details

[3:25:34 PM] nsy says: yes, i was just being facetious (sp?)

[3:25:56 PM] nsy says: all that talk of apricots

[3:26:31 PM] nsy says: i love wiki. i always learn something new.

[3:27:21 PM] pD says: i have no green thumb

[3:27:27 PM] pD says: nothing grows well in my yard

[3:27:39 PM] pD says: but, i have turned it into an advantage

[3:28:12 PM] pD says: i have paid "special attention" to some specific weed problems and was quite successful

[3:28:13 PM] pD says: so far

[3:28:48 PM] nsy says: brb

[4:13:50 PM] pD says: have you guys heard about Lucas Film allowing fans to make their StarWars re-mix?

[4:18:27 PM] pD says: George Lucas picked this one: http://www.atomfilms.com/film/chad_vader_day.jsp

[4:22:01 PM] pD says: very cute

[4:22:30 PM] pD says: more details on the fan movie challenge: http://www.atomfilms.com/2007/starwars/challenge/infoguide.jsp

[4:30:52 PM] pD says: should we do one in a "foreign lanaguage" and we can sub-title it with whatever

[4:31:12 PM] pD says: think of those cheesy Kong-Fu films from the 70's

[4:31:46 PM] AE says: have you seen Troops?

[4:31:58 PM] AE says: It's a take off of Cops and Star Wars.

[4:32:05 PM] AE says: Brilliantly done too.

[4:32:40 PM] AE says: http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/shortfilms/troops/

[4:33:59 PM] AE says: the other one is the Pink Five trilogy:

[4:34:00 PM] AE says: http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/shortfilms/pinkfive/index.asp

[4:34:16 PM] AE says: Think Star Wars meets Frank Zappa's Valley Girl

[4:34:30 PM] pD says: hahah!

[4:34:33 PM] pD says: have not seen it

[4:34:38 PM] pD says: i am downloading it right now

[4:34:53 PM] AE says: Oh cool! Company Screening! Let's fire up the projector!

[4:35:19 PM] pD says: even made it into IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0153301/

[4:35:33 PM] AE says: yeah. they're pretty famous.

[4:35:45 PM] pD says: 28MB file tho

[4:35:50 PM] pD says: it's going to take a while

[4:36:01 PM] AE says: it's worth every bit.

[5:10:20 PM] pD says: got the server to work?

[5:11:17 PM] pD says: downloaded troops

[5:11:23 PM] pD says: cannot play on MSFT media player...

[5:11:31 PM] pD says: sad :(

[5:11:39 PM] AE says: bummer!

[5:12:15 PM] AE says: The server continues to be a thorn in my side.

[5:12:19 PM] pD says: it needs apple quicktime

[5:12:28 PM] AE says: I'm now aligning all the accellion tech support department to my cause.

[5:12:37 PM] pD says: you have a big side - for a server size thorn

[5:12:43 PM] AE says: the customer's crys will go unheeded!

[5:12:51 PM] AE says: Yeah... i've been trying to loose weight.

[5:12:55 PM] pD says: they are cry babies anyway

[5:13:11 PM] pD says: servers are, i mean

[5:13:17 PM] pD says: every time you turn them on, it cries

[5:13:18 PM] AE says: ah, yes, of course.

[5:13:22 PM] pD says: i rest my case

[5:13:53 PM] pD says: btw, can i post this thread?

[5:18:14 PM] AE says: fine with me.

[5:18:56 PM] pD says: hi nsy, would you mind taking a picture of JR at half staff?

[5:19:07 PM] pD says: trying to use up your HD space...